ATL: HUMBERTO - Remnants - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#381 Postby hipshot » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:59 pm

Looking at the posted forecasted track, it looks like it will head due west around 25N. What happens if it continues
on that path which looks like it heads to northern Florida?
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#382 Postby ozonepete » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:01 pm

hipshot wrote:Looking at the posted forecasted track, it looks like it will head due west around 25N. What happens if it continues
on that path which looks like it heads to northern Florida?


No way of knowing at all. Way too far out in time.
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#383 Postby ozonepete » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:02 pm

hurricanes1234 wrote:So then this means that Humberto could stop just 4 mph before hurricane strength?!

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Ha ha anything's possible but D-MAX hasn't even started yet.
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#384 Postby HurricaneDREW92 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:05 pm

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#385 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:15 pm

The eye is becoming much better defined on satellite but core convection is very weak. One good DMAX should fix this. It better do it quick during DMAX though, it has until the 5am AST advisory.
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#386 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:17 pm

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#387 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:19 pm

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the core is looking less organized on this microwave image
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#388 Postby TJRE » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:24 pm

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#389 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:26 pm

This storm IMO is definitely in some ways living up to what the main issues have been this season so far. DRY/STABLE AIR & WIND SHEAR.
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#390 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:33 pm

Oh boy.

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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#391 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:37 pm

While this looks like attack of the 2013's I can't help but remember tat the most recent run of the Euro still shows a fairly strong system in 24 to 48 hours. :) We shall see. A bust would be most interesting, hard not to root for one.
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#392 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:50 pm

Y'all tryin' to say it appears to be fallin' apart?
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#393 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:57 pm

cycloneye wrote:Oh boy.

http://oi42.tinypic.com/wrlswo.jpg

What do you mean by "Oh boy"?
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#394 Postby hurricanes1234 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:01 pm

WeatherGuesser wrote:Y'all tryin' to say it appears to be fallin' apart?


Yes, basically. I am still in shock, but then again, it's 2013 in ALL basins. Would be sad if this was pulling an Erin at this advanced stage of tropical storm strength.

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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#395 Postby WilmingtonSandbar » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:03 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Oh boy.

http://oi42.tinypic.com/wrlswo.jpg

What do you mean by "Oh boy"?



Maybe he means, "It looks like dry air is wrapping into the center, and this might be falling apart rather quickly. Oh boy."
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#396 Postby ozonepete » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:06 pm

cycloneye wrote:Oh boy.

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A couple of things. The arc of clouds to the west and north show a shield of the circulation envelope that will prevent it from ingesting any more dry air than it has, and it's not clear at all how much it has ingested since it is at DMIN. The inflow from the south and east is quite moist.

It lost symmetry today as it started to recurve but seems to be regaining very good banding and symmetry again.

An eye-feature is still apparent at low to mid-levels.

Luis you may get your annular hurricane after all. :)
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#397 Postby hurricanes1234 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:12 pm

Are you sure? How do you know if an annular hurricane is on the way?
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#398 Postby ozonepete » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:15 pm

hurricanes1234 wrote:Are you sure? How do you know if an annular hurricane is on the way?


Don't at all. It was a partial joke, but look at the next post I'm going to do.
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#399 Postby ozonepete » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:19 pm

Multiple concentric convective bands. You could easily argue that the later image looks more like a hurricane than the first one. The amount of convection at the core is not the only influence and factor in whether a TC is a hurricane. Structure is very important. It's a real shame we can't get recon there...

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CIMSS ADT numbers going up again btw.
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#400 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:21 pm

ozonepete wrote:Multiple concentric convective bands. You could easily argue that the later image looks more like a hurricane than the first one. The amount of convection at the core is not the only influence and factor in whether a TC is a hurricane. Structure is very important. It's a real shame we can't get recon there...

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NHC is heavily reliant on satellite intensity estimates for systems in the East Atlantic though and the strength of a system -- at least according to the Dvorak technique -- is determined a good deal by the amount of central convection. I do agree it's borderline right now. Hopefully DMAX fixes it, I want to see a hurricane sometime soon. :roll:
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