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#6561 Postby Ntxw » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:59 pm

If the Euro/GFS/Canadian/Ukmet have their way and the MJO continues to crawl, October may not feature much.

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Side note: I really hate posting all this negativity and something needs to get going...but reality is the atmosphere is just not working for us weather enthusiasts looking for a spark.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6562 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:23 pm

Ntxw wrote:If the Euro/GFS/Canadian/Ukmet have their way and the MJO continues to crawl, October may not feature much.

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http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/MJO/CLIVAR/clivar_wh.shtml

Side note: I really hate posting all this negativity and something needs to get going...but reality is the atmosphere is just not working for us weather enthusiasts looking for a spark.


Thank you for posting this. You are not being negative. You are being realistic. The atmospheric conditions just arent favorable...and havent been for much of the season. A lot of people out there will just have to begin accepting the reality that its just not there this hurricane season. Thanks again for posting this. It really puts things in perspective

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6563 Postby CourierPR » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:26 pm

The MJO doesn't influence development in the GOM and Caribbean. We can still have storms form there.
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#6564 Postby hurricanetrack » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:08 am

Could be a big November! ;-)
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6565 Postby Riptide » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:39 am

Bahamas system on the GFS, something to watch in the medium to long-range.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6566 Postby blp » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:56 am

Well look what we have here. I know it is at the end of the range and probably a phantom but I am just glad to see something on the GFS. I will take the phantom storms any day over showing nothing.

Also, take a look at the MDR.

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6567 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:04 pm

:uarrow: That for sure will change many times but being October is something to watch to see if this model mantains this and the Euro joins later.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6568 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:16 pm

blp wrote:Well look what we have here. I know it is at the end of the range and probably a phantom but I am just glad to see something on the GFS. I will take the phantom storms any day over showing nothing.

Also, take a look at the MDR.


And that huge ridge over the eastern half of the US moving eastward from this 500mb forecast me thinks the upper Gulf from TX to Florida could be open for business if this panned out and especially Florida if that ridge just east continues to back down.
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#6569 Postby hurricanetrack » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:29 pm

FWIW, that cyclone gets going a few days earlier in the SE Caribbean Sea from an easterly wave. That seems plausible since the tropical waves are still coming off of Africa and seem to be fairly robust still. Perhaps October will make up some lost ground.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6570 Postby blp » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:52 pm

hurricanetrack wrote:FWIW, that cyclone gets going a few days earlier in the SE Caribbean Sea from an easterly wave. That seems plausible since the tropical waves are still coming off of Africa and seem to be fairly robust still. Perhaps October will make up some lost ground.


I agree with your comment. Those waves in the MDR have been showing up lately strong on the GFS and it won't take much of a ridge to get them further west into the prime spot for October.
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Possible NW Caribbean Development In October

#6571 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:46 pm

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9.25.13 12z GFS showing a possible TS/Hurricane moving through the Caribbean towards Yucatan... GEM was showing development in this area a few days ago... IMO, one of the best looking systems we have seen in a model run all season... Hits and misses with the models over the past few days to justify keeping an eye on this area... It's very long range...
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6572 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:52 pm

:uarrow: Moved your post to this models thread as there is no system out there in Caribbean.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6573 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:04 pm

cycloneye wrote::uarrow: Moved your post to this models thread as there is no system out there in Caribbean.


I know, you keep giving me the boot and somebody else will get credit when this happens... Lol, j/k of course... :D
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#6574 Postby alienstorm » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:41 pm

This could be the one that could happen. We will need to see what future runs show.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6575 Postby hurricanes1234 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:19 pm

This is very very far out, so I'll be monitoring the next few runs. If they are constantly being lowered, then I will assume that it is just another model storm.

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6576 Postby wxman57 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:55 pm

Sure, I believe the 384hr GFS prediction of a hurricane near the Yucatan with a NW Gulf threat as high pressure to the north slips east. Hurricane on Texas coast in mid October. Why not? ;-)

On a more serious note, we do have to keep an eye on the western Caribbean & Gulf through at least mid October for "close-in" development.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6577 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:49 pm

CourierPR wrote:The MJO doesn't influence development in the GOM and Caribbean. We can still have storms form there.

That's not true. The MJO is very influential in the Gulf and Caribbean, *especially* in the early/late portion of the season when atmospheric conditions generally aren't ripe for tropical cyclone formation.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6578 Postby Alyono » Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:33 pm

CourierPR wrote:The MJO doesn't influence development in the GOM and Caribbean. We can still have storms form there.


Actually, those are the area most affected by the MJO
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6579 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:47 pm

Didn't the GFS show a storm in the carribean on Oct 3 :roll:
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6580 Postby LaBreeze » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:30 pm

blp wrote:Well look what we have here. I know it is at the end of the range and probably a phantom but I am just glad to see something on the GFS. I will take the phantom storms any day over showing nothing.

Also, take a look at the MDR.

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Probably another visitor to Mexico.
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