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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1281 Postby hurricanes1234 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:48 pm

Looks rather sheared and starved right now to say the least. Again, I have no meteorological expertise, but in my opinion, this would likely remain at the same intensity or even weaken before landfall. Why? Because there is absolutely nothing here to indicate a favourable environment. Shear is intense enough to completely decouple any system in its path, dry air is creeping up on the storm's center, and of course, the LLC is completely detached from the convection. I find it hard to believe anything this season will live up to its expectations.

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#1282 Postby summersquall » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:48 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
summersquall wrote:[img]http://i39.tinypic.com/2yuwo5k.jpg[/mg]
Aric -- around 24.5N 88.5W?

25.1167N 89.3333W from recon..

Thank you. Maybe it is already feeling the effects of the trough.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1283 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:09 pm

Just got home and pulled up the ole satellite loops to see what the latest is and there is nothing there. :lol: Just a naked swirl with some convection being blown off to the east. I am starting to wonder if this will even make it through the night much less tomorrow. Reminds me of that naked invest off the Texas coast a couple weeks back that moved over us and never received a drop of rain from it.
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#1284 Postby HurriGuy » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:12 pm

Why am I 60 miles inland in Louisiana and have a 80% chance of rain Saturday and 60% chance of rain Sunday? I thought some pro-mets said hardly any rain for our area?
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1285 Postby Mouton » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:21 pm

Given the steering winds, approaching front, and the dry mass to the west, looks to me like Karen is headed toward north of Cedar Key Florida. The NAM is slightly above that concept with a sharp right and following the coast a tad more inland.

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#1286 Postby tolakram » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:21 pm

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#1287 Postby robbielyn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:22 pm

HurriGuy wrote:Why am I 60 miles inland in Louisiana and have a 80% chance of rain Saturday and 60% chance of rain Sunday? I thought some pro-mets said hardly any rain for our area?

because a cold front is passing thru your area maybe?
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#1288 Postby wxman57 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:24 pm

HurriGuy wrote:Why am I 60 miles inland in Louisiana and have a 80% chance of rain Saturday and 60% chance of rain Sunday? I thought some pro-mets said hardly any rain for our area?


The percent chance of rain says nothing about how much rain you might get. Perhaps those forecasting for south Louisiana are assuming that Karen will have squalls 100+ miles to its north? That's a bad assumption. There will be some scattered showers around south Louisiana, but unless you're at the mouth of the Mississippi you'll probably measure less than 1/2" of rain. Of course, there's the cold front that will be sweeping through Louisiana, too. It will have a little rain with it, but not much.
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#1289 Postby robbielyn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:40 pm

HurriGuy wrote:Ok I am not looking at weather channel anymore....local stations aren't forecasting what they are saying. When y'all think Tropical Storm Watches will be discontinued this far inland?

Its wise to always go with your local are met instead of weather channel since they arent where you are at and have local radar and local information that wtc doesn't have. They give broad information that could be true or not be true where your local met can monitor the local area weather and give you real time data
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#1290 Postby HurriGuy » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:40 pm

WOW...GFS stalls this out for quite a while for shooting it off to the east.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1291 Postby Airboy » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:41 pm

Don't moving much right now, just jumping in place.
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#1292 Postby robbielyn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:48 pm

original llc separating from convection
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#1293 Postby robbielyn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:05 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-wv.html

where's bones? after all she's bone dry. shes disappating
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#1294 Postby HurriGuy » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:10 pm

Moving north again looking at visible before sun goes down. Gotta figure NHC bumps down to 6 or 5 mph. From what everyone has been saying and looking at overall structure, gotta figure these inland tropical storm watches for LA will be discontinued by tomorrow. Highly doubting we get TS winds looking at recon.
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#1295 Postby HurricaneTracker2031 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:10 pm

hmmm.... can the other coc take over?
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#1296 Postby Janie2006 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:13 pm

Bones is still in Sickbay, nowhere near time for him....yet.
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#1297 Postby robbielyn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:13 pm

im not seeing the new center wrapping the convection around itself. doubt it will sustain itself
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#1298 Postby HurricaneTracker2031 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:14 pm

awww. another victim of the 2013 season :D
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#1299 Postby robbielyn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:16 pm

Janie2006 wrote:Bones is still in Sickbay, nowhere near time for him....yet.

why do u say that? look at watervapor sat and visible convection detaching itself from the original llc. one patch of purple blob with light blue on the rest of the system. doesnt even look like a ts anymore or act like one.
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#1300 Postby HurricaneTracker2031 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:16 pm

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