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Re: Florida Weather

#8241 Postby NDG » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:15 pm

Big positive PNA setting up with near neutral NAO index will set for a more winter like pattern for central and southern FL over the next 7-14 days. I would not be surprised of the I-4 corridor on southward has its first heavy frost event with surface high pressure centers moving closer to central FL this time around.
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#8242 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:34 pm

:darrow: Some rainfall totals accross the areas that were flooded in the past 48hrs.

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:darrow: Also some photos of the flooding that occurred at my house in Palm Beach Gardens, FL.

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Re: Florida Weather

#8243 Postby FireRat » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:53 pm

For those of you who have been wishing for winter-like weather in South Florida, it looks like it will come soon! I was checking accuweather's first 10 days outlook and it appears that between 1/15 and 1/25 there will be lows mostly in the 40s to 50s in the inland areas and highs may not pass 70 by much. Maybe high 60s for highs and 40s for lows! A good range that helps us cool off yet won't kill our crops. 8-)
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#8244 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:15 am

Yeah, it does appear that the NAO may go slightly negative in the next 10 days and 500 mb heights appear to rise during this time as well across the Western U.S. A +PNA finally looks to set up possibly as we head toward the latter portions of January. Should these trends continue, this will be a favorable set-up to finally bring cooler/colder weather to the peninsula. Now, source regions from where the cold originates will determine just how cold it will get. Much will depend if we manage to get any blocking near Greenland in the next couple of weeks for our region. Blocking there will really help to lock in colder air across the Eastern 2/3 of the US for a period of time.

Got some good rainfall here with the passage of the front last night. Just over an inch fell at my locale and there were some reports of wind damage in areas of North Florida and Southern GA.

Beautiful weather today with bright sunshine and highs today reaching the mid 60s. Another shortwave disturbance moving across Northern Mexico currently will rapidly move east across the Northen GOM and bring back another round of rain and storms across the area late Monday into Tuesday. Cold front will move through later on Tuesday bringing in a modified Polar air mass to the area later this week. Latest guidance are indicating possible upper 20s - lower 30s for min temps by Thursday morning for the normally colder interior areas of the northern peninsula.

Impressive rain totals a few days ago down along the coast from Vero Beach to Delray Beach. Wow! Just goes to show what impressive convergence can bring in terms of rainfall. Quite an event down there this past week.
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#8245 Postby gatorcane » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:11 pm

Snippet from NWS Miami:

PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 423 AM EST MON JAN 13 2014/

.PROLONGED COOL PATTERN SETTING UP FOR SOUTH FLORIDA...

DISCUSSION...THE WEATHER SO FAR THIS WINTER SEASON HAS BEEN WARM
AND HUMID ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA WITH ONLY BRIEF COOL SPELLS ONLY TO
WARM RIGHT BACK UP AGAIN. THIS WILL CHANGE AS GLOBAL MODELS ARE
IN AGREEMENT IN SHOWING A RIDGE IN THE WEST WITH A PERSISTENT,
AMPLIFIED TROUGH IN THE EAST. A COOL PATTERN IS LOOKING LIKELY
THROUGH MONTH`S END.

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#8246 Postby gatorcane » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:20 pm

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#8247 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:22 am

Received more heavy rainfall overnight as nearly 1.75 inches fell at my locale to this point. There will be one more round of significant rain moving through later this morning, and then it should clear out later this afternoon.

So far, only 3 freezes have been measured this entire season to this point, However, it appears we are on track to be adding to this total during the next week or so. A upper level trough will amplify across the Eastern U.S. and a NW flow aloft will bring a series of reinforcing cold fronts through the region . Each of these fronts will be moisture starved as the northwest flow aloft will shut off the GOM.

There will be several mornings that will see freezing temps across the northern peninsula as modified Arctic Highs move down south into the U.S. Guidance indicating possible hard freeze for interior areas (Big Bend and Suwannee River basin) late this week.

So, finally, the peninsula as a whole will see a cooler pattern as the northwest flow associated with the upper trough will bring some cool weather all the way to South Florida. Positive PNA pattern is finally developing and influencing the Western U.S. and it looks to stick around for awhile as well.
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Re: Florida Weather

#8248 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:55 am

Down here I doubt will get any rain from this front. I get confused with the +pna and nao/ao. I thought we needed a -nao to get real cool down here like 2010. Don't know much about the influence of these oscillations but at least will get cool down here for a week. :eek:
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#8249 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:52 pm

Model runs continue to suggest a cool weather pattern for Florida for the forseeable future with NW winds and a trough over Eastern North America with reinforcing cold fronts for the state. Looks like winter has finally arrived for a while...
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#8250 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:11 pm

:uarrow: Looks as if the forecasted low temp. for Friday morning could be a good 10-12 degrees colder than the arctic blast from last week. Last week the low temp on Tuesday morning only made it to 47°F, on Friday morning it is currently forecasted to get down to 35°F here in Palm Beach Gardens, FL. Of course it will change most likely as we approach Thursday night/Friday morning.
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Re: Florida Weather

#8251 Postby NDG » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:01 pm

All I know is that we are lucky that the surface temps to our north are nothing close to what they were early last week with this sharp trough coming through tonight and tomorrow.
GFSX MOS guidance do not show any freezing temps from the immediate I-4 corridor on southward, but because surface High will sit right on top of central FL tomorrow night there is a good chance for a frosty Friady morning for interior areas of C FL.
SE FL will feel colder than last week because of the NW winds bringing the colder air further south this time.
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#8252 Postby NDG » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:23 am

NWS offices in C FL place interior areas along I-4 on southward under a freeze warning, but looking at MOS guidance they continue to show only mid to upper 30s temps which they are usually cold bias by a couple of degrees. It does not surprises me in a way since they usually do it with a side of caution to be on the safe side.
IMO the warning should had been for frost which could be more damaging than a light freeze.
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#8253 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:25 pm

gatorcane wrote:Model runs continue to suggest a cool weather pattern for Florida for the forseeable future with NW winds and a trough over Eastern North America with reinforcing cold fronts for the state. Looks like winter has finally arrived for a while...


Yes indeed Gatorcane. After such an incredibly warm December for the peninsula, Old Man Winter has finally flipped the script and is making up for lost time. PNA has become prominently positive as ridging has become established along the west coast of the United States to the Gulf of Alaska.

This pattern has established a very large upper level trough across the Eastern CONUS, bringing a dry northwest upper level flow to bring a series of reinforcing modified polar airmass shots to the peninsula for the foreseeable future . The Climate Prediction Center for the next 6-10 days has the Eastern CONUS below normal with temps, and in particular the Florida peninsula and SE U.S. MUCH below with temps. Going out to the end of January, CPC is keeping the Eastern 2/3 of the U.S. below normal.

Bottomed out at 35 degrees earlier this morning at my locale. A rather vigourous shortwave swung through the base of the upper trough just ahead of the reinforcing cold front that came through overnight. This shortwave even bought a round of light rain as it moved through. Current guidance forecasting near 30 degrees at my locale tomorrow morning, with mid-upper 20s possible over portions of the normal colder spots i.e...Big Bend, Suwannee River Valley region.


High Pressure this time will settle right along the Gulf Coast and will build rtight over the top of the peninsula. Light to calm winds will settle peninsula-wide and frost and temps into the 30s will cover a wide swath of interior central peninsula and even down to interior south central areas to near Lake Okeechobee. So, finally South Florida gets in a bit of a prolonged period of cooler weather for the time being.
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#8254 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:47 am

Currently 30.2 degrees at my locale, only the fourth measured freeze of the season here. Heavy frost as well this morning.

The next in a series of cold fronts will move across the area late tonight and bring the potential for freezes across the region both tomorrow mporning and again Sunday morrning.
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Re: Florida Weather

#8255 Postby NDG » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:44 am

Only dropped to 35 degs F at my house in western Seminole County, frost was not as heavy as I thought it was going to be, was just mostly on the roof tops of the houses and cars. High Cirrus clouds a couple of hours before sunrise helped many areas in the I-4 corridor from dropping to freezing, saved once again.
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#8256 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:27 pm

Took a walk outside and what a nice cool day here across South Florida with light winds and sunny skies along with some passing high cirrus. Sky looks very "northern" today. Nice change from the near summer-like pattern we have had for nearly this entire fall/winter so far.
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#8257 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:35 pm

NWS Miami graphic for South Florida. Quite chilly indeed last night!

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#8258 Postby gatorcane » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:10 pm

Question is whether it gets colder tonight than Thu. night. Interesting snippet from NWS Miami:

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 1053 AM EST SAT JAN 18 2014/

UPDATE...DEWPOINTS ARE IN THE 40S ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA BUT BEHIND
THE COLD FRONT OVER CENTRAL FLORIDA THERE`S A DRAMATIC DROP...WITH
TEENS DEWPOINTS NOW INTO THE TAMPA TO ORLAND AREA. THE HIGH IN THE
GULF WILL SLOWLY BE DISPLACED SOUTHWARD THROUGH TONIGHT...AND
MODELS SHOW THE HIGH POSITIONED ACROSS THE SE GULF AND ACROSS
SOUTH FL OVERNIGHT. THIS IS NOT GOOD...AS RADIATIONAL COOLING WILL
BE MAXIMIZED UNDER CLEAR SKIES (HIGH CONFIDENCE IN IT REMAINING
CLEAR TONIGHT). WILL BE WATCHING OBSERVATIONAL TRENDS TODAY AND
MAKING TEMP ADJUSTMENTS, POSSIBLY LOWER, IN THE NEXT FEW
HOURS...
BUT NEED TO MAKE A CLOSER ASSESSMENT OF THINGS. STAY TUNED.
/GREGORIA

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#8259 Postby gatorcane » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:54 pm

Incredibly low dew points are descending across the state this evening!

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#8260 Postby NDG » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:29 am

Just like the NWS Office out of Miami mentioned the axis of the surface high settled over parts of southern FL, sections of interior southern FL into coastal SW FL are as cold if not colder than central and northern FL, incredible!
Meanwhile here in the Orlando area something similar happened, the south side of the city was colder than the northern side, my low in Seminole County was 35 around 4 AM now, at 7 AM up to 39 while the low at the Int'l airport in southern Orange County was 32 degrees at 4 AM, usually my spot is colder than the airport.
It is more frosty than Thursday morning by looking around.

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