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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4061 Postby TheProfessor » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:07 pm

Portastorm wrote:The 21z SREF is encouraging for south central Texas in terms of P-type ... no doubt about it. But the precip amounts are light. At least thru 87 hours.

Onward lads and ladies to the 0z GFS and Euro!


Does it show anything for North Texas?
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#4062 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:15 pm

FYI we are currently at thread page 204. In 2009/2010 we were on page 203/204 on this date. Come on guys we can do it! I fully expect another 50+ by this weekend!
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4063 Postby Portastorm » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:16 pm

TheProfessor wrote:
Portastorm wrote:The 21z SREF is encouraging for south central Texas in terms of P-type ... no doubt about it. But the precip amounts are light. At least thru 87 hours.

Onward lads and ladies to the 0z GFS and Euro!


Does it show anything for North Texas?


Not much, I'm afraid.
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#4064 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:30 pm

Im trying to stay awake, i dont think im going to make it. That is a lot of moisture off the coast of mexico though. Still a ways to go though, you guys are right. Really excited though!
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#4065 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:56 pm

0z GFS has IP for a lot of central and SE TX and -SN from a Permian basin to Waco line. Perhaps a few inches of stuff at PWC HQ?
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4066 Postby South Texas Storms » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:01 pm

Ntxw wrote:0z GFS has IP for a lot of central and SE TX and -SN from a Permian to Waco line


Yeah I like the looks of the 0z GFS tonight! It's indicating that CLL and AUS could see about an inch of sleet/snow on Thursday night/Friday!
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4067 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:06 pm

Time to dig for that football Portastorm, these models are doing it to you again with Lucy lurking nearby.
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#4068 Postby SeGaBob » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:07 pm

I'm nowhere near Texas... but I'm wondering what's supposed to cause the precipitation to begin with over there. Also...someone a couple of pages ago asked if a gulf low could come out of this and impact the South... any thoughts on that would be appreciated. :)
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#4069 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:12 pm

SeGaBob wrote:I'm nowhere near Texas... but I'm wondering what's supposed to cause the precipitation to begin with over there. Also someone a couple of pages ago asked if a gulf low could come out of this and impact the South... any thoughts on that would be appreciated. :)


A digging shortwave diving SE and coming moisture from the Pacific. Core of the cold is heading to the eastern conus thus suppression that way so most models sends the thing out into the central gulf by passing southern half of TX keeping much of the south dry. A further north track and/or stronger system could bring moisture into the south but currently most models don't do that.
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#4070 Postby SeGaBob » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:14 pm

Ntxw wrote:
SeGaBob wrote:I'm nowhere near Texas... but I'm wondering what's supposed to cause the precipitation to begin with over there. Also someone a couple of pages ago asked if a gulf low could come out of this and impact the South... any thoughts on that would be appreciated. :)


A digging shortwave diving SE and coming moisture from the Pacific. Core of the cold is heading to the eastern conus thus suppression that way so most models sends the thing out into the central gulf by passing southern half of TX keeping much of the south dry. A further north track and/or stronger system could bring moisture into the south but currently most models don't do that.





Thanks for your reply... :)
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#4071 Postby Texas Snowman » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:50 am

Ntxw wrote:0z GFS has IP for a lot of central and SE TX and -SN from a Permian basin to Waco line. Perhaps a few inches of stuff at PWC HQ?


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Just days ago, it appeared that all hope was lost. An avalanche of meteograms were spelling out the idea of "No cold for you!" and "No snow or ice for you!" to the fair city of Austin and points further west, east, and south in Texas.

And then...in the blink of an eye...things changed.

With a gleam in his eye, Portastorm steps to the line, gets under center and yells out an audible.

"Omaha! Omaha! Austin! Austin! Houston! Houston! Snow for Texas!"

And the crowd goes wild. :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4072 Postby KatDaddy » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:52 am

Victoria, TX now has a Winter mix in the forecast.

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#4073 Postby KatDaddy » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:46 am

Continued mostly sunny skies will continue today as the cold front is now off the coast. Temps in the mid to upper 50s with gusty N winds this morning. Highs should reach the low to mid 60s today and Wednesday and then a big change comes Thursday as another Arctic front moves across TX. Models continue to bounce around with possible freezing rain and sleet across SE TX. Friday morning. Remember Winter precip in SE TX is a very tough forecast. For now I will continue watch the models and look for consistency…..perhaps better details tomorrow evening and Thursday morning. The Houston-Galveston NWS say it perfectly in the last sentence of this morning's AFD: THIS REMAINS A TRICKY EVENT SO PLEASE STAY TUNED.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4074 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:51 am

6z GFS has a little sleet from Victoria to the Hill Country and brief light snow west of SAT/AUS on Thursday night and that's about it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4075 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:01 am

wxman57 wrote:6z GFS has a little sleet from Victoria to the Hill Country and brief light snow west of SAT/AUS on Thursday night and that's about it.


Figures that you, Heat Miser, would focus on the model set which offers the least amount of winter "joy." :roll: We didn't see you around much last night when we were high-fiving each other about the 0z GFS run.

Indeed ... the 6z model trends push the breakout of precip further south as noted by HGX in its excellent AFD this morning. Not much for the AUS/SAT areas as compared to the 0z runs. GFS has not been consistent in its treatment of the precip while the Euro has. Accordingly, EWX is going with the Euro for its late week forecast which does mean some wintry mix starting late Thursday evening but it shuts off quickly Friday morning.

Still a long ways to go on this one, folks.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4076 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:17 am

I would caution everyone that QPF has been a major issue for the guidance and not just here in Texas. The guidance for the Mid Atlantic and NE US did not come into agreement until 24 to 18 hours prior to the events expected today in those areas. The amount of QPF was very light for those areas until yesterday when higher totals suddenly appeared and now those areas are under Winter Storm Warnings. Key word of the day...Expected changes. :wink:
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4077 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:30 am

Here is a summary of comments from morning AFDs re: the late-week weather potential into early next week:

Houston/Galveston (HGX):

A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL THEN MAKES IT WAY INTO SOUTHEAST TEXAS
THURSDAY MORNING. THE MAIN LONGWAVE TROUGH AXIS WILL REMAIN OVER
THE UNITED STATES WITH AN OMEGA HIGH SITTING JUST TO THE WEST OF
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. A SHORTWAVE WILL RIDE UP AND OVER THE OMEGA
HIGH AND FALL BACK UNDER THE HIGH TO FORM A REX BLOCK. AT THE SAME
TIME A SHORTWAVE WILL PULSE SOUTHWARDS OVER THE GREAT LAKES
SENDING THE SURFACE COLD FRONT SOUTHWARDS. MODELS ARE IN PRETTY
GOOD AGREEMENT ABOUT TEMPERATURES BEHIND THE FRONT. THE GFS...
CANADIAN... EURO... AND NAM ALL HAVE ~1044MB HIGH CROSSING INTO
THE PANHANDLE OF TEXAS EARLY FRIDAY MORNING. WHERE MODELS DISAGREE
ON IS PRECIPITATION. THE 0Z GFS AND ECMWF START THE PRECIPITATION
THURSDAY MORNING AND DON`T END IT UNTIL FRIDAY MORNING. THE PRECIP
LOOKS TO START FIRING DUE TO VERY WEAK ISENTROPIC LIFT... WAA...
AND FROM THE RRQ. AS THE TROUGH AXIS SAGS SOUTHWARDS SO WILL THE
BEST UPPER LEVEL DYNAMICS AND DRY AIR. BOTH THE 6Z NAM AND GFS
HAVE TRENDED TO THE UPPER LEVEL ENERGY PUSHING FURTHER SOUTH ALONG
WITH THE PRECIPITATION. TEMPERATURES WILL APPROACH FREEZING EARLY
FRIDAY MORNING. ALMOST ALL OF OUR CWA LOOKS TO BE NEAR OR BELOW
FREEZING SOMETIME FRIDAY MORNING. THE 0Z GFS SOUNDING FOR KCLL
WOULD SUPPORT RAIN INITIALLY THURSDAY TRANSITIONING TO FREEZING
RAIN AND THEN ICE PELLETS AND FINALLY SNOW FRIDAY MORNING. 850 MB
TEMPERATURES AT KIAH AND KGLS NEVER MAKE IT TO FREEZING AS AT
KCLL. THE GFS AND NAM DO SHOW BOTH KIAH AND KGLS TO BE BELOW
FREEZING AT THE SURFACE THOUGH FRIDAY MORNING. THESE SOUNDING
PROFILES WOULD SUPPORT FREEZING RAIN. AGAIN THE MAIN PROBLEM WILL
BE IF DRIER AIR FORM THE NORTH MAKES ITS WAY SOUTH. THE NEW 6Z NAM
SOUNDINGS SHOW EXTENSIVE DRY AIR MAKING IT INTO THE AREA AT 900MB
AND WOULD SUPPORT NO PRECIP WITH THE BELOW FREEZING TEMPERATURES.
THIS REMAINS A TRICKY EVENT SO PLEASE STAY TUNED.

Austin/San Antonio (EWX):
THE BIG CHALLENGE FOR
THIS THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY MORNING FORECAST PERIOD IS THE
POSSIBLY WINTRY PRECIPITATION. EXPECT FREEZING RAINS TO AFFECT
PARTS OF THE HILL COUNTRY BEGINNING AROUND 10 PM THURSDAY WHILE
SPREADING ALONG THE I-35 CORRIDOR AROUND AND AFTER MIDNIGHT AND
SOUTH OF HIGHWAY 10 AROUND 2 OR 3 AM TO 8 AM FRIDAY MORNING.
REMEMBER TO PROTECT PETS...PIPES... PEOPLE...AND ANY SENSITIVE
PLANTS WHICH HAVE SURVIVED THE PREVIOUS FREEZES EARLIER THIS
WINTER SEASON AND USE EXTRA CAUTION WHEN DRIVING THURSDAY NIGHT
INTO FRIDAY MORNING. SINCE THE ECMWF MODEL HAS BEEN THE MORE
CONSISTENT FOR THE LAST FEW RUNS...WILL GO WITH IT AND END POPS
EARLY FRIDAY MORNING WITH DRY CONDITIONS PREVAILING THROUGH MONDAY
OF NEXT WEEK.

Brownsville:
WEDNESDAY NIGHT LOOKS TO THE MILDEST NIGHT WITH THE ADVERTISED
ARCTIC FRONT MOVING INTO NORTH TEXAS. THE FRONT IS PROGGED TO
MAKE QUICK PROGRESS MOVING INTO THE CWA AROUND NOON AND MOVE OFF
THE SE COAST BEFORE SUNSET. COLD AIR TO SETTLE IN AND HANG OUT FOR
36 TO 48 HOURS. A BIG SWING IN TEMPERATURES TO OCCUR BETWEEN THU
AND FRI WITH A DROP OF ALMOST 30 DEGREES IN SOME SPOTS. DO NOT
EXPECT ANY TYPE OF FREEZING TEMPERATURES AT THIS TIME ESPECIALLY
FARTHER SOUTH. MID 30S LOOKS ABOUT AS COLD AS IT GET BOTH FRIDAY
AND FRIDAY MORNINGS ACROSS THE NORTHERN AND WESTERN RANCH LANDS.
THE BRISK NORTH WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT THOUGH TO PRODUCE LOW WIND
CHILLS WITH FELL LIKE TEMPS RANGING FROM THE UPPER 20S TO UPPER
30S FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY MORNING. THE SAVING GRACE FROM DAMAGING
FREEZING TEMPS IS THE DEVELOPING STRONG INVERSION AND STRENGTHENING
ISENTROPIC LIFT AS THE MID AND UPPER FLOW INCREASES FROM THE
SOUTHWEST. A COASTAL TROUGH DEVELOPS WITH MODELS PINPOINTING BEST
LIFT AND HIGHEST RAIN CHANCES THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING.
AREAS ALONG EAST OF HIGHWAY 77/69E LOOK TO HAVE THE BEST CHANCES
WITH ALL AREAS REMAINING SHROUDED UNDER A THICK BLANKET OF CLOUDS.
MODELS SUGGESTING UPPER LEVEL WINDS VEERING WEST TO NORTHWEST
BEGINNING FRIDAY AFTERNOON IF TIMING IS CORRECT THIS WILL WEAKEN
AND PUSH THE COASTAL TROUGH EASTWARD LESSON THE CHANCE OF RAIN.
MODELS HAVE BEEN PERSISTENT WITH THIS TIMING AND FORECAST
CONTINUES TO TREND LOWER ON POPS SATURDAY. MAIN QUESTION IS IF
TEMPERATURES RECOVER EVEN WITH A THICK OVERCAST. TOOK A BLEND OF
ALL MODELS WHICH TRENDS ON THE WARMER SIDE OF THE GFS/ECMWF MOS
GUIDANCE. BELIEVE THE STRENGTHENING WESTERLY FLOW TO PUSH THE
ARCTIC HIGH QUICKLY TO THE EAST ALLOWING FOR A FASTER RECOVERY.
RECOVERY CONTINUES SUNDAY AND MONDAY BUT WILL BE SUBTLE WITH SOUTH
TEXAS REMAINING BETWEEN THE DOMINATE EASTERN TROUGH AND WESTERN
RIDGE. MODELS CONTINUE TO HINT AT ANOTHER SHOT OF ARCTIC AIR TO
SURGE SOUTH MAKING ITS WAY INTO THE REGION NEXT TUESDAY

San Angelo:
LONG TERM...
...ARCTIC FRONT HEADS INTO TEXAS WEDNESDAY NIGHT WITH THE POTENTIAL
FOR WINTERY PRECIPITATION THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND NIGHT...

EC AND GFS MODELS CONTINUE TO INDICATE AN ARCTIC AIR MASS COMING OUT
OF WESTERN CANADA ON A MORE SOUTHERLY COURSE (RATHER THAN A
SOUTHEASTERLY DIRECTION) OF THE PREVIOUS MODEL RUNS. WINDS BEHIND TO
SHIFT NORTH IN THE BIG COUNTRY LATE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON, BUT STRONG
COLD ADVECTION WILL BEGIN WEDNESDAY NIGHT WITH THE FRONT PUSHING
ALONG A SAN ANGELO TO BROWNWOOD LINE AROUND MIDNIGHT WEDNESDAY
NIGHT, AND WELL SOUTH OF I-10 BY THURSDAY MORNING.

HIGHS FOR THE DAY ON THURSDAY WILL BE EARLY MORNING BEHIND THE COLD
FRONT. TEMPERATURES ALONG I-20 SHOULD FALL BELOW FREEZING BY
DAYBREAK THURSDAY WITH TEMPERATURES FALLING BELOW FREEZING ALONG THE
I-10 CORRIDOR IN THE AFTERNOON. BOTH THE GFS AND EC MODELS ARE
WETTER, INDICATING SOME LIGHT WINTERY PRECIPITATION FOR THURSDAY AND
THURSDAY NIGHT. THE GFS INDICATES THIS PRECIPITATION MAINLY IN THE
CONCHO VALLEY, AND AREAS SOUTH AND EAST. THE EC INDICATES WINTER
PRECIPITATION AS FAR NORTH AS I-20. WILL ADD A SLIGHT CHANCE OF
PRECIPITATION FOR THE CONCHO VALLEY AND AREAS SOUTH AND EAST, WHERE
THE MODELS ARE IN AGREEMENT. GFS FORECAST SOUNDING PROFILES ARE
NEARLY ALL BELOW FREEZING BY NOON THURSDAY, WITH SATURATION UP TO
-15 C BY 6 PM THURSDAY. THE FORECAST SOUNDING PROFILE INDICATES A
MIXTURE OF LIGHT FREEZING RAIN, SLEET AND LIGHT SNOW, THOUGH
FREEZING RAIN IS LESS LIKELY THURSDAY NIGHT. MODEL LIQUID AMOUNTS
ARE LIGHT, ON THE ORDER OF A FEW HUNDREDTHS OF AN INCH. WITH SOME OF
THE PRECIPITATION GOING INTO SATURATING OF THE ATMOSPHERIC COLUMN, I
AM KEEPING POPS AT 20 PERCENT AT THIS TIME.

VERY COLD AIR THURSDAY NIGHT, WITH LOWS IN THE TEENS. CLEARING SKIES
EXPECTED FRIDAY AS SOUTHWESTERLY AND WESTERLY WINDS IN THE LOW AND
MID LEVEL MOVE MOISTURE TO THE EAST. SOME HIGH CLOUDS MAY REMAIN
HOWEVER, AND HIGHS ON FRIDAY MAY ONLY REACH 40. A NICE WEEKEND IN
STORE HOWEVER, WITH HIGHS ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY INCREASING INTO THE
60S. ANOTHER COLD FRONT MAY AFFECT THE REGION NEXT MONDAY, AND COULD
BRING IN ANOTHER MASS OF COLDER AIR FROM CANADA FOR TUESDAY.

Dallas/Fort Worth (FWD):
THE POLAR VORTEX ACROSS EASTERN CANADA WILL BEGIN AMPLIFYING AND
EXPANDING WEST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES AND NORTHERN TIER OF THE U.S
INTO THE LATE WEEK PERIOD. THIS WILL ASSIST AN ARCTIC FRONT INTO
OUR AREA WEDNESDAY NIGHT WHILE TAPPING INTO SHORTWAVE ENERGY ALOFT
ACROSS WESTERN CANADA AND THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THURSDAY WILL BE
WINDY AND COLD WITH WIND CHILLS RANGING FROM THE TEENS AND 20S NORTH
TO THE 30S SOUTH. HIGH TEMPERATURES ON THURSDAY WILL NOT WARM MUCH
MORE THAN THE 30S NORTH TO THE LOWER 40S SOUTH AND THAT MAY EVEN
BE OPTIMISTIC...AS THE ARCTIC AIR DEEPENS READILY THROUGH THE DAY.

THE POLAR VORTEX ALOFT ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES AND NEW ENGLAND WILL
EXPAND WESTWARD ACROSS THE ROCKIES AND RAPIDLY DEEPEN THE COLD
AIRMASS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CWA. APPROACHING SHORTWAVE ENERGY
EMBEDDED WITHIN THE NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT WILL DEEPEN AN EASTERLY
LOW LEVEL WIND COMPONENT ACROSS CENTRAL TEXAS AND SOUTHWEST TOWARD
THE HILL COUNTRY AND RIO GRANDE PLAIN. SATURATION OF THE THETA-E
SURFACES SHOULD REMAIN SOUTH OF A GOLDTHWAITE...WACO...PALESTINE
LINE. SPOTTY LIGHT WINTRY PRECIPITATION BEGINS THURSDAY AFTERNOON
AND LINGERS INTO EARLY FRIDAY MORNING. SOUNDING ANALYSIS CONCURS
WITH PARTIAL THICKNESS AND TOP DOWN METHODS ON AN INITIAL RAIN...
SLEET AND SNOW MIX ACROSS OUR CENTRAL TEXAS THURSDAY AFTERNOON.
PRECIPITATION LOOKS TO TRANSITION QUICKLY TO A SLEET/SNOW MIX OR
EVEN ALL LIGHT SNOW OR SNOW FLURRIES BY MIDNIGHT FRIDAY. FEEL THE
MIX IS BETTER HERE AS THE ATMOSPHERIC COLUMN BETWEEN 850-700MB
REMAINS BETWEEN 0 AND -5 DEG C. FREEZING RAIN HAS BEEN DISCOUNTED
DUE TO ANY WARM NOSE ALOFT BEING BRIEF AND ELEVATED. AREAS FURTHER
NORTH WILL SEE PLENTY OF DRY AIR ENTRAINMENT AND DO NOT EXPECT
ANYTHING MORE THAN THE CHILLY TEMPERATURES. LOWS WILL PLUMMET INTO
THE TEENS NORTHWEST TO LOWER-MID 20S SOUTHEAST BY FRIDAY MORNING.

ARCTIC HIGH PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE ITS GRIP ON FRIDAY WITH HIGHS
STILL STRUGGLING TO GET INTO THE 30S TO POSSIBLY LOWER 40S
SOUTHWEST. THE BROAD VORTEX ALOFT DOES LOOK TO WEAKEN AND DAMPEN BY
THE WEEKEND AND MAKE THIS ARCTIC INTRUSION A BRIEF ONE. LOW LEVEL
S/SW FLOW WILL RETURN AS SHORTWAVE RIDGING ALOFT TAKES HOLD FOR THE
WEEKEND. HIGHS WILL WARM BACK INTO THE 50S SATURDAY AND INTO THE 60S
ON SUNDAY. THERE ARE SIGNS OF ANOTHER ARCTIC SURGE EARLY NEXT
WEEK...THOUGH THE MODELS CERTAINLY DIFFER ON THE AMPLIFICATION OF
THE EASTERN CONUS VORTEX AND TIMING...WITH THE ECMWF HAVING AN
EARLIER AN ARRIVAL ON MONDAY. THESE DIFFERENCES SHOULD IRON
THEMSELVES OUT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE WEEK.

Corpus Christi (CRP):
LONG TERM (WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY)...MOISTURE WILL BE ON THE
INCREASE WED NIGHT AHD OF A STRONG ARCTIC COLD FRONT THAT IS PROGD
TO MOVE THROUGH THE AREA ON THU. BEHIND THE FRONT BY THU
AFTERNOON...COLD...BREEZY/WINDY AND WET CONDITIONS CAN BE EXPECTED.
DYNAMICS/FORCING WILL BE WEAK BUT A SATURATED FCST SOUNDING AND SOME
WEAK ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE INDICATE THAT 30-50 POPS FOR -RA LOOKS
WARRANTED ON THU THROUGH FRI. MAIN CONCERN WILL BE THU NIGHT/FRI
MORNING AS FCST SOUNDINGS FOR THE NRN CWA LOOKS SLIGHTLY CONDUCIVE
FOR FROZEN PRECIP. STILL NOT TOO CONFIDENT IN THIS SCENARIO GIVEN
THE MODELS HAVE VARIED IN JUST HOW MUCH ARCTIC AIRMASS MOVES INTO S
TX. HAVE INTRODUCED A SLIGHT CHC OF LIGHT FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET
FROM COT TO VCT EARLY FRI MORNING. MAIN IMPACT WOULD BE FOR
OVERPASSES AND BRIDGES BEING SUSCEPTIBLE TO ICING. THE OTHER BIG
CONCERN WILL BE WINDS OVER THE COASTAL WATERS. MODELS VARY ON JUST
HOW STRONG THE OFFSHORE FLOW WILL BE THU NIGHT/FRI MORNING...SO WENT
WITH A COMPROMISE WHICH LEADS TO POTENTIAL GALE CONDITIONS. WINDS
DIMINISH THROUGH FRI BUT OVC SKIES AND WET CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
TO PERSIST THROUGH THE DAY...KEEPING TEMPS IN THE 40S. GUIDANCE
PROGS FREEZING TEMPS SAT MORNING ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE NRN CWA. FOR
NOW WENT WITH A LIGHT FREEZE ACROSS THE NE CWA SAT MORNING. PRECIP
IS PROGD TO DECREASE FRI NIGHT THRU SAT NIGHT FROM NW TO
SE...THEREFORE FROZEN PRECIP SAT MORNING IS NOT EXPECTED. TEMPS WILL
GRADUALLY WARM THROUGH THE WEEKEND AND INTO MONDAY. SUN/MON SHOULD
SEE DRIER CONDITIONS AND MILD TEMPS.

Shreveport, LA:
LITTLE CHANGE ELSEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD WITH ANOTHER STRONG ARCTIC
FRONT STILL PUSHING DOWN INTO THE FOUR STATE AREA LATE WEEK.
MOISTURE LIMITED...BUT IT STILL LOOKS LIKE SOME TRANSITIONING QPF
WILL UNFOLD OVERNIGHT THURSDAY INTO EARLY FRIDAY. MOSTLY RAIN
CHANGING TO SNOW WITH A GOOD DEPTH OF COLD AIR ENSUING. THE EURO IS
FAIRLY CONSISTENT ON LOCATION OF THE QPF UP TO NEAR I-20...BUT THE GFS
CONTINUES TO TREND FARTHER SOUTH. MUCH MORE SO IN FACT ON THE
LATEST 06Z RUN. WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR WITH STILL LITTLE
AFFECT ON TRAVEL EXPECTED FOR OUR AREA. MAV AND MEX NUMBERS ARE
REASONABLE AND HAVE BEEN BLENDED INTO THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS.

Lake Charles, LA:

FUN PART OF THE FORECAST COMES THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY AS MOISTURE
ALOFT BEGINS TO POOL AND RISE OVER THE ARCTIC AIRMASS SETTLING IN
BEHIND THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. FORECAST SOUNDINGS AND THICKNESS
PROGS CONTINUE TO INDICATE THE POSSIBILITY OF A WINTRY MIX OF
PRECIP LATE THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING ACROSS ALL BUT
MAYBE THE BEACHES. WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO GO WITH A WIDESPREAD
WINTER EVENT IF WE HAD A SFC LOW DEVELOP OVER THE WRN GULF AND
SKIRT THE COAST BUT FOR NOW THIS SCENARIO IS NOT PLAYING OUT IN
THE LATEST MODEL RUNS...HOWEVER WILL LEAVE THE WINTER WEATHER IN
THE FORECASTS TO ELIMINATE ANY POSSIBLE PUBLIC CONFUSION ATTM.
REGARDLESS FRIDAY LOOKS VERY COLD WITH HIGHS BARELY IN THE LOWER
40S AND WIND CHILLS IN THE 30S.

BY SATURDAY THE ARCTIC HIGH IS PROGGED TO SETTLE OVER THE WRN GULF
REGION WHICH SHOULD PUSH ANY REMAINING PRECIP WELL INTO THE GULF.
DRY CONDITIONS ARE THEN PROGGED TO LINGER FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE
FORECAST PERIOD AS NRLY FLOW PERSISTS ALOFT AROUND THE ERN CONUS
TROF...AND SFC HIGH PRESSURE DOMINATES AS WELL.
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#4078 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:40 am

Hopefully the GOM can help with the moisture. My amateur status is showing since i see the shortwave on the 500MB but im not sure how its even 'creating' the moisture in the first place. I just hope the GOM can give us some surprises.
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#4079 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:47 am

Actually Ports the Euro has been rather dry compared to the GFS (don't shoot the messenger) and most activity is deep south TX and coastal SE TX but temp profiles there on it are iffy. Root for the GFS.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4080 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:48 am

Despite some of the NWSFOs siding with the Euro due to its consistent run-to-run status ... and who can argue with that logic?! ... the national weather desk out of D.C. sees merit in the GFS solutions. Here is a snippet from their early morning discussion:

OVER THE PLAINS STATES...MODEL EXCEPTIONS WERE RELATED TO THE
TEMPERATURE PROFILES ALONG THE WESTERN AND SOUTHERN FRINGES OF THE
ARCTIC SURGE ON DAY 3...THOUGH NO MAJOR DISCREPANCIES WERE NOTED
WITH THE TIMING OF THE PLUNGE. ITS WITH THE EVENTUAL OUTCOME OF
THE TRAJECTORIES OF THE COLDER AIR...ONCE IT MAKES ITS UPSLOPE
RUN...THEN SLOSHES BACK DOWN HILL...THAT MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE
IN THE WORLD. THIS IS THE FIFTH OF 7 SHIFTS...AND THE GFS HAS
ALWAYS BEEN THE WARMER SOLUTION OVER EASTERN MONTANA AND
WYOMING...WHILE...THE ECMWF HAS BEEN GENERALLY COLDER FROM
SOUTHEAST COLORADO INTO EASTERN NEW MEXICO AND WEST TEXAS. WHAT
WILL BE THE CHALLENGE AGAIN THIS MORNING...WILL BE WHICH OF THE
SOLUTIONS PANS OUT---FOR A WINTRY PRECIPITATION EVENT IN SOUTH
TEXAS? AND A QUICK REBOUND OF WARMING ACROSS THE NORTHERN AND
CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS? IN BOTH AREAS OF CONCERN...CAN SEE MERIT IN
USING THE GFS TO CAPTURE A LIGHT WINTRY MIX WITHOUT TOTALLY
DISMISSING THE POSSIBLE IMPACTS...WHICH THE ECMWF SEEMS TO
GENERALLY IGNORE WITHIN ITS PRECIPITATION FIELDS AT F72-F84.
CONVERSELY...THE ECMWF PROBABLY WILL TIME OUT THE SECOND SURGE
INTO AND QUICKLY AWAY FROM THE NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS A LITTLE
BETTER THAN THE GFS. BLENDING THEM BOTH AT DAY 6...WOULD GIVE YOU
A TREND TO CAPTURE A MUCH COLDER AIRMASS THAN THE GFS. THAT
USUALLY REWARDS THE TEMPERATURE FORECASTER WITH BIG RETURNS!
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