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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4101 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:00 am

The 12Z NAM is considerably 'wetter' than the 06Z run. The 12Z NAM is also suggesting a bit stronger upper air disturbance and that old Coastal trough is back once again. The NAM also keep the precip going longer into Friday since it has slowed the progression of that upper air disturbance by about 6-12 hours. The Arctic front still arrives late Wednesday and makes it to the Coast By mid day Thursday and has a bit stronger 1044mb High pressure cell associated with the cold air.

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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4102 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:05 am

srainhoutx wrote:The 12Z NAM is considerably 'wetter' than the 06Z run. The 12Z NAM is also suggesting a bit stronger upper air disturbance and that old Coastal trough is back once again. The NAM also keep the precip going longer into Friday since it has slowed the progression of that upper air disturbance by about 6-12 hours. The Arctic front still arrives late Wednesday and makes it to the Coast By mid day Thursday and has a bit stronger 1044mb High pressure cell associated with the cold air.

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Is this liquid or frozen precipitation?
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4103 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:07 am

TheProfessor wrote:
Is this liquid or frozen precipitation?

It's way too soon to worry about those 'finer' details' and particularly concerning the NAM short range meso guidance beyond 48 hours.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4104 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:10 am

srainhoutx wrote:
TheProfessor wrote:
Is this liquid or frozen precipitation?

It's way too soon to worry about those 'finer' details' and particularly concerning the NAM short range meso guidance beyond 48 hours.



Yeah, at this point we need to ake sure we have the moisture :) Everything else will play itself out when the moisture comes on board
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4105 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:15 am

I'm loving the 12z NAM. Loving it! :cheesy:

That run has a ++PWC/--WSI index

By the way, the Portastorm Weather Center has scheduled a news conference for 4 p.m. tomorrow (Wednesday). Storm2k News will cover the event.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4106 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:16 am

Portastorm wrote:I'm loving the 12z NAM. Loving it! :cheesy:

That run has a ++PWC/--WSI index

[b]By the way, the Portastorm Weather Center has scheduled a news conference for 4 p.m. tomorrow (Wednesday). Storm2k News will cover the event.[/b]


Thank goodness. That is the only news source I trust in weather. :)
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4107 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:17 am

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:
srainhoutx wrote:
TheProfessor wrote:
Is this liquid or frozen precipitation?

It's way too soon to worry about those 'finer' details' and particularly concerning the NAM short range meso guidance beyond 48 hours.



Yeah, at this point we need to ake sure we have the moisture :) Everything else will play itself out when the moisture comes on board


Ok, I was just wondering because close to an inch of rain is a lot different than close to an inch of snow when you convert the rain into snow. :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4108 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:20 am

Yeah, at this point we need to ake sure we have the moisture :) Everything else will play itself out when the moisture comes on board


Ok, I was just wondering because close to an inch of rain is a lot different than close to an inch of snow when you convert the rain into snow. :D


1 inch of liquid to snow using the standard rule is 10 inches of snow. .2 inches of liquid is 2 inches of snow.
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#4109 Postby gpsnowman » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:22 am

Awesome!!! A PWC news conference is always good. Porta, maybe you could nudge a little moisture up DFWs way. I don't mean to sound greedy but......I am. :D
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#4110 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:24 am

Oh look what I found rummaging through the archives. This brings back memories of an event four days out....December 2009...Houston (HGX). Enjoy...


Well HGX is getting a bit more bullish on the event...

IT SEEMS THAT YESTERDAY`S 12Z GFS RUN PICKED UP ON A STRONG
SHORTWAVE TROUGH THAT IT HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY RESOLVED. THE
SHORTWAVE IS NOW OVER THE PAC NW THAT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA
ON FRI AS A STRONG JET STREAK PUSHES INTO IT ON THU. TODAY`S 12Z
GFS CONTINUES THIS TREND AS DOES THE 12Z NAM. THIS BRINGS MORE
CONFIDENCE TO FORECAST WINTER PRECIPITATION DURING THE DAY FRI.
THE EVENT MAY BE 4 DAYS OUT BUT WILL DO THE BEST TO HASH OUT
DETAILS OF THE TRANSITION FROM RAIN TO SNOW AS MODEL SOUNDINGS
SUPPORT ALL SNOW BY THE AFTERNOON AS WELL AS ANY HEAVIER PRECIP
BANDS. THE NEW HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK WILL DETAIL OUR LATEST
THINKING BUT WILL BE UPDATED AGAIN THIS AFTERNOON. AFTERNOON
FORECAST PACKAGE WILL ALSO FEATURE AN SPS TO OUTLINE WINTER
PRECIP THREATS/HAZARDS AND TIMING OF THE EVENT FOR AREAS OF SE TX.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4111 Postby Big O » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:25 am

Portastorm wrote:I'm loving the 12z NAM. Loving it! :cheesy:

That run has a ++PWC/--WSI index

By the way, the Portastorm Weather Center has scheduled a news conference for 4 p.m. tomorrow (Wednesday). Storm2k News will cover the event.


I can see why. Looks like a good 2-6" for PWC-Austin branch. Let's see what the GFS and Euro have to say at 12z before we get ahead of ourselves.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4112 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:29 am

If I can just get an inch of sleet in MoCo, I'll be happy.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4113 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:30 am

Portastorm wrote:I'm loving the 12z NAM. Loving it! :cheesy:

That run has a ++PWC/--WSI index

By the way, the Portastorm Weather Center has scheduled a news conference for 4 p.m. tomorrow (Wednesday). Storm2k News will cover the event.


Absolutely love the WSI tank! The NTX PWC branch will be making the trip for the conference providing state of the art, colorful charts, graphs, and maps for an unparalleled visual experience (2d, 3d, and 4d). Currently picket signs are being made of anti-heat miser for all who attend.
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#4114 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:30 am

I am sticking with the idea of a low forming in the Gulf and spreading snow between I-10 and I-20 in Texas and maybe further east. I could easily see how this storm could lay down a decent band on its northern periphery before it moves east along the Gulf coast.
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#4115 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:31 am

Tireman4 wrote:Oh look what I found rummaging through the archives. This brings back memories of an event four days out....December 2009...Houston (HGX). Enjoy...


Well HGX is getting a bit more bullish on the event...

IT SEEMS THAT YESTERDAY`S 12Z GFS RUN PICKED UP ON A STRONG
SHORTWAVE TROUGH THAT IT HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY RESOLVED. THE
SHORTWAVE IS NOW OVER THE PAC NW THAT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA
ON FRI AS A STRONG JET STREAK PUSHES INTO IT ON THU. TODAY`S 12Z
GFS CONTINUES THIS TREND AS DOES THE 12Z NAM. THIS BRINGS MORE
CONFIDENCE TO FORECAST WINTER PRECIPITATION DURING THE DAY FRI.
THE EVENT MAY BE 4 DAYS OUT BUT WILL DO THE BEST TO HASH OUT
DETAILS OF THE TRANSITION FROM RAIN TO SNOW AS MODEL SOUNDINGS
SUPPORT ALL SNOW BY THE AFTERNOON AS WELL AS ANY HEAVIER PRECIP
BANDS. THE NEW HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK WILL DETAIL OUR LATEST
THINKING BUT WILL BE UPDATED AGAIN THIS AFTERNOON. AFTERNOON
FORECAST PACKAGE WILL ALSO FEATURE AN SPS TO OUTLINE WINTER
PRECIP THREATS/HAZARDS AND TIMING OF THE EVENT FOR AREAS OF SE TX.


The exact event that came to mind when i saw we have a possibility of frozen precip coming. It popped up 4 days in advance and it snowed that Friday for quite some time. That was all snow though. Even as i drove into work, they expected alot more sleet and rain before the snow came. Snow came much earlier than expected. Atmosphere cooled down rapidly.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4116 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:34 am

Ntxw wrote:
Portastorm wrote:I'm loving the 12z NAM. Loving it! :cheesy:

That run has a ++PWC/--WSI index

By the way, the Portastorm Weather Center has scheduled a news conference for 4 p.m. tomorrow (Wednesday). Storm2k News will cover the event.


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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4117 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:38 am

this is going to be a tough tough forecast for the gurus!!!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4118 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:40 am

Regarding the Euro somewhat drying out, doesn't past experience tell us that the models tend to lose the event a few days prior then pops right back up like a day or two before?
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#4119 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:42 am

Is the 12:00 gfs out yet?
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#4120 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:47 am

running now!!!
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