MED: ILONA - Tropical Storm over the Thyrrenian Sea

[DanieleItalyRm]

Mediterranean storm ILONA become in a very little warm core storm (50 km in diameter) with a tropical caracteristics , over the Thyrrenian Sea.
Landfall over italian coast, 35 km North owest of Naples,15 km north of Procida Island;
max wind 53 kts (98km/h) over Procida island (994 hpa pressure):

[Alyono]

looks even smaller than was Marco in 2008!

[DanieleItalyRm]

today continue the evolution of the little cyclone over the Adriatic Sea:

[DanieleItalyRm]

increase the convection! like a perfect TS in this moment..

http://www.meteo-allerta.it/en/weather/ ... italy.html

[DanieleItalyRm]

[supercane4867]

Nice radar presentation

[DanieleItalyRm]

Evident central convection in Latest night images from Noaa, just before final weakening:

[DanieleItalyRm]

discrete convection in the little depression this morning (shallow warm core in this moment)..

[TheEuropean]

Hi Daniele,
thx for showing this nice little cyclone, this should be at least subtropical, I think.

[DanieleItalyRm]

I have a proposal...

In the Active Storms forum, among all basins (Atlantic, Arabian, etc.), can we add "Mediterranean basin and other"? or "possible Mediterranean and other basin"?
Otherwise, Mediterranean cyclones and other possible storms will be lost in Talkin' Tropics posts.

Daniele

[terstorm1012]

I like that proposal, Danielle.

However no one is really tracking them as tropical systems.

[DanieleItalyRm]

Good morning terstorm,
What do you mean for "However no one is really tracking them as tropical systems"?

[Hurricaneman]

Good morning terstorm,
What do you mean for "However no one is really tracking them as tropical systems"?

What I think is meant is that these systems aren't being tracked by any tropical organization but are being tracked by local offices in the Med. sea as tropical systems by them

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[euro6208]

Good morning terstorm,
What do you mean for "However no one is really tracking them as tropical systems"?

What I think is meant is that these systems aren't being tracked by any tropical organization but are being tracked by local offices in the Med. sea as tropical systems by them

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Well I think most people recognizes them as subtropical systems/cold core/hybrid systems not anything warm core tropical and i don't think any Med.Sea offices classifies a tropical system...that's what i think he meant but that's just me.

[terstorm1012]

Good morning terstorm,
What do you mean for "However no one is really tracking them as tropical systems"?

What I think is meant is that these systems aren't being tracked by any tropical organization but are being tracked by local offices in the Med. sea as tropical systems by them

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products

Well I think most people recognizes them as subtropical systems/cold core/hybrid systems not anything warm core tropical and i don't think any Med.Sea offices classifies a tropical system...that's what i think he meant but that's just me.

Yes, that's what I meant. Their formation process is different than most tropical cyclones in the world.

[DanieleItalyRm]

Probably I do not understand, why Italian... I do not get asked that a real traking for professional institution.. but a room where you follow them, enclose them.
The Mediterranean tropical cyclone formation process is equal to that of North Atlantic storms like Vince 2005, Grace 2009 , Chris 2012.. the same, identical.
In 2011, the sab ssd NOAA has followed the first tropical storm cyclone in the Mediterranean sea (not the first in the story, only the first followed) 99L-01 M (T.3 - 45 kt);
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/20 ... d/01M.html



Then, SAB SSD noaa, has stopped following the systems in the Mediterranean, they say for lack of funds, but if this cyclone would not have been followed by Sab ssd, would have been one of the many cyclones uncertain.
But...
Why I should see alarms of a weak depression in the North Atlantic, only because it recognized by a professional institution?
Why I should see an extratropical cyclone become into a tropical cyclone Chris 2012 over 22-23°C sea surface in North Atlantic and alarms, only because it recognized by a professional institution?
Same Hurricane Vince in 2005...
Why I should see an extratropical cyclone become into a tropical cyclone Grace 2009 in North Atlantic over 20°C sea surface, only because it recognized by a professional institution?
And I should pretend to a severe 130 km/h storm that devastates small islands in the Mediterranean, causing 2 casualties just because it is not recognized by a professional institution? but that is clearly tropical cyclone, with warm core, in October 1996 over +25°C sea surface..
All of us are savvy enough to understand that this a really tropical cyclone, even without professional institution.

[terstorm1012]

Hi Danielle

What if we kept tracking them here? We can keep good records and maybe help with the research of these cyclones.

[DanieleItalyRm]

Hi terstorm,
the posts in talking topic's, are lost in pages and pages ...
In a dedicated topic would be more easily accessible, and listed.
But that's okay ', do not worry.
Daniele

[terstorm1012]

I agree that medicanes should have their own dedicated page. If you need support and votes if it comes down to that, you've got mine!