Isabel and the NW turn...
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Isabel and the NW turn...
Much has been said the past few days on the eventual track of Isabel...including my prediction last night of a raker from Hatteras to Long Island. Well, my forecast stands.
Once again, after looking at all the guidance tonight it is clear they all forecast a weakness in the ridge between 70 and 75 West with one ridge over the northern Atlantic and another one over the midwest. There will only be one place for this cyclone to move beyond day 3 and that is NW and then eventually North. Isabel will be very close to Hatteras in 8 days.
Once again, after looking at all the guidance tonight it is clear they all forecast a weakness in the ridge between 70 and 75 West with one ridge over the northern Atlantic and another one over the midwest. There will only be one place for this cyclone to move beyond day 3 and that is NW and then eventually North. Isabel will be very close to Hatteras in 8 days.
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I don't necessarily want it to hit me...although I must admit I have a thing for being in the eye of a hurricane.
I've lived here my entire life and have been through many hurricanes...I must admit I enjoy the action.
But that is not the basis of my thinking or forecasting. If not truely NW after day 3 then it will be mighty close to NW...fair enough?

But that is not the basis of my thinking or forecasting. If not truely NW after day 3 then it will be mighty close to NW...fair enough?
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Have you guys really taken a close look at the model guidance? There WILL be a weakness in the ridge. A well organized cyclone like Isabel only needs to feel a slight weakness to tun poleward. Also...this is September afterall...climo tells us that storms recurve in the Atlantic in mid to late September.
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And the 0Z GFDL comes in with a turn to the NW after day 4.
Here are the numbers...
0 21.6 55.7 280./ 8.0
6 21.7 56.6 277./ 8.2
12 21.7 57.4 269./ 7.7
18 21.8 58.2 274./ 7.3
24 21.7 58.9 269./ 6.6
30 21.9 59.8 280./ 8.2
36 22.2 60.5 295./ 7.8
42 22.6 61.5 292./ 9.8
48 23.0 62.4 293./ 9.2
54 23.4 63.5 288./10.9
60 23.8 64.6 292./10.3
66 24.2 65.6 293./10.5
72 24.6 66.4 295./ 8.4
78 25.0 67.4 292./ 9.2
84 25.4 68.2 298./ 8.8
90 25.9 68.8 308./ 6.6
96 26.3 69.3 310./ 6.3
102 26.7 69.9 304./ 6.4
108 27.2 70.3 324./ 6.6
114 28.0 70.4 348./ 7.9
120 28.9 70.6 350./ 8.4
126 29.9 71.0 337./10.7
Here are the numbers...
0 21.6 55.7 280./ 8.0
6 21.7 56.6 277./ 8.2
12 21.7 57.4 269./ 7.7
18 21.8 58.2 274./ 7.3
24 21.7 58.9 269./ 6.6
30 21.9 59.8 280./ 8.2
36 22.2 60.5 295./ 7.8
42 22.6 61.5 292./ 9.8
48 23.0 62.4 293./ 9.2
54 23.4 63.5 288./10.9
60 23.8 64.6 292./10.3
66 24.2 65.6 293./10.5
72 24.6 66.4 295./ 8.4
78 25.0 67.4 292./ 9.2
84 25.4 68.2 298./ 8.8
90 25.9 68.8 308./ 6.6
96 26.3 69.3 310./ 6.3
102 26.7 69.9 304./ 6.4
108 27.2 70.3 324./ 6.6
114 28.0 70.4 348./ 7.9
120 28.9 70.6 350./ 8.4
126 29.9 71.0 337./10.7
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uh oh
Florida will never see this cane.
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I don't think you should be talking like that. This is a CAT 5 Hurricane we're talking about!!!
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I don't think you should be talking like that. This is a CAT 5 Hurricane we're talking about!!!
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Re: uh oh
~SirCane wrote:Florida will never see this cane.
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I don't think you should be talking like that. This is a CAT 5 Hurricane we're talking about!!!
I AGREE SIR!! No bold statements on Isabel! Too much room for error and putting some people off guard when EVERYONE should remain vigilant and watch her until she is through!
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ANYONE WHO MAKES A REMARK of "Florida will never see this hurricane" should take a closer look at it...
1. It's headed straight for us...
2. That was a STUPID statement to make..
3. If the ridge holds, any North or NW turn would be slight and not dramatic enough to keep her away from Florida
1. It's headed straight for us...
2. That was a STUPID statement to make..
3. If the ridge holds, any North or NW turn would be slight and not dramatic enough to keep her away from Florida
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OBX, I respect your weather expertise as I've watched you over the years, but what about the fact that storms as strong as Isabel often tend to rebuild the ridges to their N? I see what you are talking about but I am not convinced that the fridge will not be built back in by the time that Isabel has a chance to respond to the weakness.
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so then...by your logic we should give the people living in the mid-Atlantic a false sense of security?
I'm just telling you how I see things shaping up. Take it for what it's worth. Of course people in Florida should remain on gaurd until the storm moves North of your latitude...that is the rule of thumb for all hurricanes. I'm telling you though...Isabel is not going to Florida.
I'm just telling you how I see things shaping up. Take it for what it's worth. Of course people in Florida should remain on gaurd until the storm moves North of your latitude...that is the rule of thumb for all hurricanes. I'm telling you though...Isabel is not going to Florida.
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I believe Florida is still in her bulls eye..
And that's any less of God complex?
I'm not trying to be a weather God...I'm just giving you my opinion on the matter at hand. Take it or leave it. I don't feel as if I'm a weather God...but I do feel confident that my opinion is an educated one.
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Just a little thought here from the islands...waiting on storms can make all of us a tad touchy (was going to say tetchy, but too close to techy and that's not a BAD thing) with the stress of wondering. For us in the VI's and PR, watching Fabian and Isabel has been stressful indeed...but as we say here often, prepare for the worst, hope for the best and keep the rum barrel stocked. No matter how much we know, it's the SCIENCE that is fascinating...and NATURE that is phenomenal;)
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