14th storm added to 2013 AHS - Azores storm in December

[CrazyC83]

DID NOT expect this, but it is true.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/tcr/AL152013_Unnamed.pdf

[cycloneye]

A huge surprise indeed. Season closes at 14/2/0.

[CrazyC83]

Did we ever have a thread for that system? I wonder if we should link it here to see our opinions in real time...

[cycloneye]

Did we ever have a thread for that system? I wonder if we should link it here to see our opinions in real time...

Here is the Talking Tropics thread.

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=116035&p=2359983#p2359983

Here is the Invest 90L thread.

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=116026&start=0

[CrazyC83]

Interestingly a few posts there suggested it was supportive of an upgrade...

[cycloneye]

I rechecked the 2013 S2K poll but still no close calls after the #14 was added.

[Hurricane_Luis]

Could they have just named it Nestor. Seeing as it came after TS Melissa and storms formed in between.

[Hurricane Jed]

While they could posthumously slap Nestor on it, there really is no reason to. The storm is long gone.

[Cyclenall]

DID NOT expect this, but it is true.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/tcr/AL152013_Unnamed.pdf

There were hundreds of these things last year, come to expect it.

Interestingly a few posts there suggested it was supportive of an upgrade...

Hurricanes1234 is going to be happy when he comes online :

I'd suspect that if it isn't upgraded soon, it would be there in the post-tropical re-analysis. By the way, if this forms, it will go straight to Nestor!

:uarrow: While they could posthumously slap Nestor on it, there really is no reason to. The storm is long gone.

I didn't even think of them just naming it Nestor because its the last storm, that should have been done then. The reason is for identifying purposes.

[Hurricane Jed]

The NHC offered a nice explanation on their FB page. "NOAA NWS National Hurricane Center Tom, the system will not be given a name. Only systems that are classified as storms operationally are given a name. However, it will still count as a "named storm" which is really short-hand for systems of storm strength or higher." btw my name isn't Tom

[hurricanes1234]

DID NOT expect this, but it is true.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/tcr/AL152013_Unnamed.pdf

There were hundreds of these things last year, come to expect it.

Interestingly a few posts there suggested it was supportive of an upgrade...

Hurricanes1234 is going to be happy when he comes online :

I'd suspect that if it isn't upgraded soon, it would be there in the post-tropical re-analysis. By the way, if this forms, it will go straight to Nestor!

:uarrow: While they could posthumously slap Nestor on it, there really is no reason to. The storm is long gone.

I didn't even think of them just naming it Nestor because its the last storm, that should have been done then. The reason is for identifying purposes.

I saw this upgrade yesterday and was thinking: an expected surprise. It had all the looks of a named system in my opinion, even if it was to be subtropical. I can't believe I was right back then! And the storm almost became a hurricane (55 knots).

[Hurricanehink]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_off-season_Atlantic_hurricanes - interestingly (only to big weather geeks like me), this is the first unnamed subtropical storm in December since at least 1975. All others since then became tropical and were properly named. Also based on my research, it is the most recent off-season storm to be classified post-season since January 1978 (when a subtropical storm appeared to have been handled internally). Just goes to show how on the ball NHC is.

I also found it interesting that the TCR admitted that the NHC could handle marginal subtropical storms only via marine products. That probably helps in situations like these, when they're expected to be short lived.

[TropicalAnalystwx13]

"Looks decent enough for classification to me. Shallow warm core with no fronts attached and shallow convection near and over the center. But what do I know."

Maybe I do know SOMETHING after all.

[RL3AO]

It would be interesting to see the discussion that goes into pulling the trigger on an unnamed storm. Seems to be one or two every year that are close.

[RL3AO]

It would be interesting to see the discussion that goes into pulling the trigger on an unnamed storm. Seems to be one or two every year that are close.