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#9681 Postby Ntxw » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:27 am

TheProfessor wrote::uarrow: hmm, I wonder if we could slip in 8 more freezes. :wink:


It's possible, the record of freezes for March at DFW is 10 from 1965.
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#9682 Postby Ntxw » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:30 am

northjaxpro wrote:Wow, another winter storm for SE TX. It has been an amazing winter season for you all down there and I have had a pretty good time following this thread this winter. Makes me feel very fortunate being here in my corner of the country in how we have mostly escaped the storms, although we had light sleet here on the tail end of the winter storm that hit GA and the Carolinas in late January.

You guys are a very good and astute group of weather junkies on this thread, like yours truly. It is fun following the goings on over in Texas, and I look forward to more banter in less than three months when the hurricane season gets underway!


We enjoyed your presence here and hope you will continue in future winters to come! Always interesting how our weather effects other places in the country as well. Maybe we can pull another March superstorm and get everyone involved one last time :wink:
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#9683 Postby gpsnowman » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:36 am

Ntxw wrote:
TheProfessor wrote::uarrow: hmm, I wonder if we could slip in 8 more freezes. :wink:


It's possible, the record of freezes for March at DFW is 10 from 1965.

An earlier post(wxman57's I think) mentioned possible cold returning the middle of next week. Is that still being shown on the models? Breaking the freeze record would be extra icing on an already delicious cake.
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#9684 Postby Texas Snowman » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:45 am

Ntxw, any idea of how many 24-hr. calendar days DFW has remained below freezing? Wonder where the Metroplex stands in that regards?
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#9685 Postby gpsnowman » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:46 am

Another question. The freeze numbers, are they for just the DJF period or are the numbers from the start of winter to the end? We had freezes in November and obviously some to start March. Just didn't know if those were included in the overall totals. Thanks.
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#9686 Postby ndale » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:47 am

Just got the ice off the car. All we have had are these little "ice storms" that were never what they were predicted. No snow, not even sleet. I am done with cold until next fall. I want warm so I can rework my yard.
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#9687 Postby GRAYSONCO.WX » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:52 am

Most of the guidance still indicates a rain/snow mixture for northeastern Texas Wednesday evening. Then we need to keep a close eye on the later half of the weekend, too.
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#9688 Postby Ntxw » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:52 am

gpsnowman wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
TheProfessor wrote::uarrow: hmm, I wonder if we could slip in 8 more freezes. :wink:


It's possible, the record of freezes for March at DFW is 10 from 1965.

An earlier post(wxman57's I think) mentioned possible cold returning the middle of next week. Is that still being shown on the models? Breaking the freeze record would be extra icing on an already delicious cake.


This is correct. There are several things to watch, first is diving storm tomorrow into Thurs, GFS been doing funny business while another cutoff low effects us this weekend. Anomalous cold temps with it, whether we get freezing or "stuff" out of it is to be seen. We'll see how much cold air it has to tap. Then mid next week Western Canada block will occur higher heights above, lower heights below. This is the anomalous 850mb below normal temps wxman57 was talking about, likely another surge of cold air. CFSv2 perpetually keeps us cold and below normal it's entire run through to April as the NE Pacific ridge continues to dominate. We'll have to see each snap as it comes because the models project a +EPO/+PNA signal which is kind of conflicting.
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#9689 Postby Ntxw » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:55 am

Texas Snowman wrote:Ntxw, any idea of how many 24-hr. calendar days DFW has remained below freezing? Wonder where the Metroplex stands in that regards?


I'm unsure what you mean? Consecutive days? For this cold snap or for the winter?
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#9690 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:55 am

gpsnowman wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
TheProfessor wrote::uarrow: hmm, I wonder if we could slip in 8 more freezes. :wink:


It's possible, the record of freezes for March at DFW is 10 from 1965.

An earlier post(wxman57's I think) mentioned possible cold returning the middle of next week. Is that still being shown on the models? Breaking the freeze record would be extra icing on an already delicious cake.


Remember, Wxman 57 is under the weather. He is in a cold biased state. Can we trust this person who purports to be Wxman 57? Hummmmm
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#9691 Postby gboudx » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:07 am

Ntxw wrote:
Texas Snowman wrote:Ntxw, any idea of how many 24-hr. calendar days DFW has remained below freezing? Wonder where the Metroplex stands in that regards?


I'm unsure what you mean? Consecutive days? For this cold snap or for the winter?


I think he means, based on total number of hours below freezing, how many days does that equate to.
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#9692 Postby Ntxw » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:20 am

:uarrow: If that's the case then I am unsure. Records of daily information isn't freely available I don't think. Lots of hours counting :lol:

Just look at this guys. That is a REAL subtropical jet. SOI has been nose diving and westerlies are strong. I hope this means I will be wrong about a dry spring and ENSO turns on quicker.

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It expands even further to the WPAC as strong kelvin wave continuously feeds it. We won't be seeing much sun the next week to two.
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#9693 Postby Texas Snowman » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:31 am

Days where the high temp was 32 degrees or lower
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#9694 Postby Ntxw » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:36 am

Texas Snowman wrote:Days where the high temp was 32 degrees or lower


Officially there was only four. A bunch of 33s and some 34s and 36s. March has 0 even though it was 22 degrees in the afternoon on Sunday as the high for the day was 71 just past midnight, so the day's high was 71 and low was 19 how's that for gap. This is a debatable stat. We probably spent an unusual amount of hours below freezing this winter than most up there with the coldest ones. Those highs were able to get above freezing for an hour or two during those long cold snaps.
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#9695 Postby weatherdude1108 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:05 pm

We had thunder and lightning last night, with decent showers off and on, including this morning. Here is the result.

ICEMAGEDDON March 4, 2014 :lightning: :rain: :froze:
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#9696 Postby Portastorm » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:24 pm

Forecasting winter weather in south central Texas is damn near impossible. My hat is off to those who do it for a living. The way things unfolded last night and this morning for the Austin area was not shown in any computer model I know of ... and trust me, I think I looked at them all. The Euro was probably best in suggesting the moisture plume which stayed to our southeast and essentially took away any significant QPF after midnight. And, none of them showed the convection developing early evening as it did.

I can't fault EWX for pulling the trigger on a WSW when they did considering what model guidance showed. The NAM was the hot hand in the last few days and despite it's wet bias, it was a model which I think earned the right to be believed. And they went with it. I would have as well.

Of course with the warnings out and every concerned and not much weather to speak of ... it just makes everyone all the more skeptical. This is the second consecutive forecast bust of sorts and it only undermines people's confidence in the NWS or their favorite weather nerd.

I'm ready for warmth and spring. Call me the new Heat Miser.
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#9697 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:29 pm

Yeah im ready for boat weather. All this cold air and here in Sugar Land we had only a little bit of ice and sleet.
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#9698 Postby Houstonia » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:52 pm

When it's mid-August and the wind drops to a standstill and the humidity is so high you can almost feel the mold grow on you when you stand outside.

When the sun is so hot, it blisters the sidewalks and it's so white and glaring it's like a jewel.

When it's 8:30 at night and you think, "maybe it's cool enough to go outside", only to walk out into what feels like a steam furnace and you touch your hand to brick and quickly pull away due to the hotness.

When walking from your car to the store and then back again feels like you've crossed seasons because of the 30 degree difference in temperature (freezing inside, blistering outside).

When, at about 3 pm, everything seems to come to a halt. No wind, no sound, everything is sleeping. And then the afternoon thunderstorm rolls in - thick clouds, lightning thunder and torrential rains (we hope) until suddenly, it all shuts off like a faucet and the grass seems a little greener and lusher, and steam rises from the cement.

When that time comes, I will kneel down and kiss the hot, humid ground.
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#9699 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:59 pm

I still love this weather.

When it is 95 and it feels like forever until the Fall front
When it is so hot you cannot breathe
When it so humid you sweat just to take two steps outside
When it is so hot your A/C will not cool the car at all (no matter how long you drive)
When it is so hot, you have to change shirt before you get in the car

I will thank this winter and all the cold it has brought...


I hate Texas in August

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#9700 Postby Ntxw » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:11 pm

Waco is at 67 freezes which continues to obliterate their 51 record. their lows seems to match more of Sherman or Denton than areas surrounding them. That seems too extraordinary (due to the location of readings) but still staggering. I'd like to have seen how it would compare had the stations remained in the same areas.
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