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#4421 Postby Ntxw » Fri May 09, 2014 7:03 pm

It's been a slow, loooong process. But this is what we have achieved so far. We're talking about waters that move only a few meters per second!

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Not bad for the first third of the year. From here on forward is when ENSO events likes makes it's claim, where the real event kicks in. The building blocks laid down, fruits of labor to be had. Ocean Kelvin wave in the western basin is looking pretty good.
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#4422 Postby Ntxw » Fri May 09, 2014 8:21 pm

Here's something interesting I've found, not sure if anyone's posted. The CPC is blogging about the coming El Nino, seemingly the first of it's kind for any ENSO event. Perhaps we can get some insight every now and then from individual forecasters within the group instead of just the formal weekly updates.

http://www.climate.gov/news-features/department/8443/all
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#4423 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 09, 2014 9:03 pm

Ntxw wrote:Here's something interesting I've found, not sure if anyone's posted. The CPC is blogging about the coming El Nino, seemingly the first of it's kind for any ENSO event. Perhaps we can get some insight every now and then from individual forecasters within the group instead of just the formal weekly updates.

http://www.climate.gov/news-features/department/8443/all


Very interesting site that I bookmarked.
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#4424 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 10, 2014 6:48 pm

The rollercoaster continues as SOI is going up again.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/soi.txt
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#4425 Postby dexterlabio » Sun May 11, 2014 2:16 am

I noticed that the SOI goes up when MJO is about to enter the Indian Ocean...and last time the MJO entered EPAC, daily SOI crashed to -35. Why is that?
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#4426 Postby stormkite » Sun May 11, 2014 7:32 am

Current equatorial surface wind analysis indicated modest east anomalies over the Maritime Continent fading to neutral on the dateline. Neutral anomalies continued east of there extending to a point south of Hawaii and then turning light to modest westerly over the Galapagos into Central America. A week from now (5/17) east anomalies are expected to be gone with light westerly anomalies developing over the Eastern Maritime Continent reaching to the dateline, turning neutral there and continuing south of Hawaii and holding neutral over the Galapagos and Central America. In all this suggests the Active Phase of the MJO was moving over the Galapagos while the Inactive Phase has peaked over the far West Pacific and is expected to move east and fade before reaching the dateline in the next 5-7 days. This remains good news. The issue with this Inactive Phase is that it's easterly anomalies have likely shut down the transport of warm water to the east. This would mark the first stoppage of warm water transport since the beginning of the year, potentially cutting the legs of the evolving warm water pool in the East Pacific. Westerly anomalies need to redevelop in the West Pacific.
http://www.stormsurf.com/page2/forecast ... rent.shtml


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Surface winds false start is on the cards just like so many other times.
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#4427 Postby Ntxw » Sun May 11, 2014 8:11 am

dexterlabio wrote:I noticed that the SOI goes up when MJO is about to enter the Indian Ocean...and last time the MJO entered EPAC, daily SOI crashed to -35. Why is that?


+23 on the daily SOI as a result
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#4428 Postby cycloneye » Sun May 11, 2014 9:57 am

I only ask a basic question. What is going to happen with ENSO as things may have stalled? (See 2 posts above)
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#4429 Postby tolakram » Sun May 11, 2014 10:31 am

Are we cancelling El Nino again. :D

I kid of course, but last time around the indicators going the wrong way didn't seem to mean much.
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#4430 Postby dexterlabio » Sun May 11, 2014 10:54 am

I think we need a very strong MJO stuck in WPAC to cement this El Nino. Let's see where it will go in the coming weeks... Will it enter the "ring" after crossing the Indian Ocean or will it emerge as strong in the WPAC?
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Re: ENSO Updates

#4431 Postby dexterlabio » Sun May 11, 2014 11:04 am

tolakram wrote:Are we cancelling El Nino again. :D

I kid of course, but last time around the indicators going the wrong way didn't seem to mean much.



I myself would want to cancel this EN. :lol: But is it too late to cancel whatever is present in the Pacific right now? I mean the Pacific is in a classic +PDO configuration...no cold water off Alaska and West USA to mix with those in the Nino region.. -PDO killed the El Nino attempt in 2012.

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#4432 Postby NDG » Sun May 11, 2014 2:03 pm

Something is going to have to give with the SOI index so high, it either is going to have to crash pretty soon or a moderate to strong El Niño is not in to be in the pictute any time soon.
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#4433 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 11, 2014 2:16 pm

NDG wrote:Something is going to have to give with the SOI index so high, it either is going to have to crash pretty soon or a moderate to strong El Niño is not in to be in the pictute any time soon.


SOI come and go in spikes. It was very negative like 5 days ago. I would not take too much thought into it.
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#4434 Postby stormkite » Sun May 11, 2014 10:12 pm

tolakram wrote:Are we cancelling El Nino again. :D

I kid of course, but last time around the indicators going the wrong way didn't seem to mean much.


Atm there is nothing to cancel as far as i know we are still neutral. IOD is still neutral as well not trying to offend anyone here but there's two much chicken counting before any eggs have hatched.
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#4435 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sun May 11, 2014 11:15 pm

2009 and other years had even a higher SOI when the El Niño SSTs were me. In early July 2009, when it was declared, the SOI was positive.

What made the SOI positive anyway?
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#4436 Postby stormkite » Sun May 11, 2014 11:28 pm

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:2009 and other years had even a higher SOI when the El Niño SSTs were me. In early July 2009, when it was declared, the SOI was positive.

What made the SOI positive anyway?


The inactive phase of the MJO.

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#4437 Postby Kingarabian » Sun May 11, 2014 11:39 pm

stormkite wrote:
tolakram wrote:Are we cancelling El Nino again. :D

I kid of course, but last time around the indicators going the wrong way didn't seem to mean much.


Atm there is nothing to cancel as far as i know we are still neutral. IOD is still neutral as well not trying to offend anyone here but there's two much chicken counting before any eggs have hatched.

The eggs began hatching when the strong sub-surface pool started to reach surface.
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#4438 Postby stormkite » Sun May 11, 2014 11:53 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
stormkite wrote:
tolakram wrote:Are we cancelling El Nino again. :D

I kid of course, but last time around the indicators going the wrong way didn't seem to mean much.


Atm there is nothing to cancel as far as i know we are still neutral. IOD is still neutral as well not trying to offend anyone here but there's two much chicken counting before any eggs have hatched.

The eggs began hatching when the strong sub-surface pool started to reach surface.


And thats official?

If your so keen on being in a hurricane Kingarabian suggest you travel to another country where the odds are much higher Wespac/USA.
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#4439 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Mon May 12, 2014 12:46 am

30 day SOI went down slightly to 2.3.
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#4440 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Mon May 12, 2014 3:08 am

Our country has some water and electricity shortages. A major dam went below the critical level due to no rainfall. Are these the effects of the precursor El Niño. I hope the El Niño will not worsen this.

The last time this has occurred was during the summer of 2010, and that was after its peak. It is already just before the El Niño was even officially declared yet that the dams are losing water below the critical level.
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