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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6821 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Mon May 26, 2014 10:15 am

I think from what I read. The MJO is suppose to enter the carribean next week and get a little stronger. Models don't do well that far out but it's a signal. So pressures might lower down there. Models pop up lows everywhere but won't know much probably till late next week.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6822 Postby CourierPR » Mon May 26, 2014 11:40 am

HURRICANELONNY wrote:I think from what I read. The MJO is suppose to enter the carribean next week and get a little stronger. Models don't do well that far out but it's a signal. So pressures might lower down there. Models pop up lows everywhere but won't know much probably till late next week.



I think that's a very reasonable assumption. We are at that time when the waiting and watching begin.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6823 Postby cycloneye » Mon May 26, 2014 12:54 pm

Let's have some entertainment on this Memorial day. Here is the CMC. (Crazy Making Cyclones) :)

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6824 Postby blp » Mon May 26, 2014 2:51 pm

cycloneye wrote:Let's have some entertainment on this Memorial day. Here is the CMC. (Crazy Making Cyclones) :)

[http://oi57.tinypic.com/verp5s.jpg[/img]


Hey Cycloneye you want to see some real entertainment check out the FIM 9. It may take over new crazy uncle model from the CMC. It ramps systems up too quick IMO.

https://imageshack.com/i/ngp8b4p
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6825 Postby cycloneye » Mon May 26, 2014 3:36 pm

blp wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Let's have some entertainment on this Memorial day. Here is the CMC. (Crazy Making Cyclones) :)

[http://oi57.tinypic.com/verp5s.jpg[/img]


Hey Cycloneye you want to see some real entertainment check out the FIM 9. It may take over new crazy uncle model from the CMC. It ramps systems up too quick IMO.

https://imageshack.com/i/ngp8b4p


Maybe not so much entertainment after all? I posted here a interesting video by Levi Cowan.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6826 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Mon May 26, 2014 8:09 pm

Same scenario from the 18z GFS

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6827 Postby floridasun78 » Mon May 26, 2014 10:53 pm

cycloneye wrote:
blp wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Let's have some entertainment on this Memorial day. Here is the CMC. (Crazy Making Cyclones) :)

[http://oi57.tinypic.com/verp5s.jpg[/img]


Hey Cycloneye you want to see some real entertainment check out the FIM 9. It may take over new crazy uncle model from the CMC. It ramps systems up too quick IMO.

https://imageshack.com/i/ngp8b4p


Maybe not so much entertainment after all? I posted here a interesting video by Levi Cowan.

he say rain for fl by week one hurr season
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6828 Postby supercane4867 » Tue May 27, 2014 12:03 am

00Z GFS continue showing a well-defined system near Yucatan with gale force winds to its north

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6829 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue May 27, 2014 12:23 am

I wouldn't rule out something similar to Debby in 2012 or Andrea last year
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6830 Postby hurricanehunter69 » Tue May 27, 2014 2:24 am

CourierPR wrote:The latest satellite image shows no precipitation in the Caribbean. Where will the moisture originate to feed any developing system?

The ULL over Texas is the culprit, and is forecasted to be cutoff and move to the SE (into the Caribbean). A ridge to it's east could also help to funnel moisture from the deep tropics into the systems eastern quadrant.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6831 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Tue May 27, 2014 6:53 am

This is a tidbit from Miami discussion this morning on 5/27.

odels then diverge quite dramatically by next week as the GFS depicts an area of low pressure developing across the Yucatan and pushing north into the Gulf of Mexico. The European model (ecmwf) on the other hand keeps the bulk of the moisture well south with upper ridging building into the western Gulf of Mexico.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6832 Postby floridasun78 » Tue May 27, 2014 11:58 am

HURRICANELONNY wrote:This is a tidbit from Miami discussion this morning on 5/27.

odels then diverge quite dramatically by next week as the GFS depicts an area of low pressure developing across the Yucatan and pushing north into the Gulf of Mexico. The European model (ecmwf) on the other hand keeps the bulk of the moisture well south with upper ridging building into the western Gulf of Mexico.

i saw that too on miami weather office site too
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#6833 Postby Alyono » Tue May 27, 2014 12:16 pm

12Z GFS more aggressive in terms of development
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6834 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue May 27, 2014 12:33 pm

Alyono wrote:12Z GFS more aggressive in terms of development


Does the Euro show any development? Also, what does the Canadian show?

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6835 Postby NDG » Tue May 27, 2014 12:33 pm

12z GFS still at it, becoming more consistent with timing of potential development. It might be suffering with convective feedback issues compared to the Euro but the GFS has a better track record from prior years with systems that develop on the western Caribbean/BOC area where the Euro loves to push the moisture into mainland MX quicker than what it usually does, IMO.
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#6836 Postby Alyono » Tue May 27, 2014 12:40 pm

Can we lay off the convective feedback excuse?

It is the most overused term on weather forums. There are clear synoptic differences between the EC and GFS
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6837 Postby blp » Tue May 27, 2014 12:43 pm

The GFS certainly seems resonable given the time of year and the track. Also, in El Nino years you typically get this kind of early season development before that area shuts down later in the season. Waiting to see the Euro jumps in then the idea will be solidified in my mind. The Euro has been a little late to the game the past few years with picking up cyclogenesis, but it also has less false postives than the GFS so it balances out.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6838 Postby ronjon » Tue May 27, 2014 3:32 pm

Big ole fat anti-cyclone sitting and expanding at 200 mb in the NW caribbean in the 6-7 day time frame according to GFS. This could get interesting.

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#6839 Postby Hammy » Tue May 27, 2014 4:45 pm

Am I correct that the system presently moving into South America is what the models are picking up later in the week?
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#6840 Postby cycloneye » Tue May 27, 2014 5:09 pm

ronjon wrote:Big ole fat anti-cyclone sitting and expanding at 200 mb in the NW caribbean in the 6-7 day time frame according to GFS. This could get interesting.

200 mb GFS


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