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#401 Postby hurricanes1234 » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:45 pm

Thanks. An interesting point to note not related to Cristina, there's a lonesome area of strong convection to the southwest and I thought it would be worth discussing here.
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#402 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:32 pm

hurricanes1234 wrote:Thanks. An interesting point to note not related to Cristina, there's a lonesome area of strong convection to the southwest and I thought it would be worth discussing here.


Models don't develop this.
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#403 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:27 pm

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CMC shows this. I notice how all the CFS storm get dropped once they're carried over to the GFS.
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#404 Postby Steve820 » Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:00 pm

This season's getting very impressive activity so far! With Cristina and another area of convection that could possibly develop (even though there's not much model support), and also the El Nino, we could be in for a wild year here. :wink:
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#405 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:39 pm

Steve820 wrote:This season's getting very impressive activity so far! With Cristina and another area of convection that could possibly develop (even though there's not much model support), and also the El Nino, we could be in for a wild year here. :wink:


Why will the other area develop?
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#406 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:33 am

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Shear expected to decrease to less than 10 knts across the basin within a week.
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#407 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:30 pm

2014 season continues to rack up ACE units and is June 11. ACE units as of 21:00z advisory of Hurricane Cristina at 70kts is 21.26.
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#408 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:09 pm

Cristina looks good, Amanda has good company. EPAC rolling with the goods. No phantoms here!

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#409 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:36 pm

The MJO, while strong, is holding stationary in the Indian Ocean and West Pacific right now, and most models forecast it to move very little through the end of the month (dubious?). It should eventually eject into the West Hemisphere sometime in early to mid-July. Once that happens, the Pacific hurricane season will *really* get underway. I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see over 1 Category 5 hurricane by the time the season is through, especially once the atmosphere responds to the developing El Nino.

I'm expecting somewhere between 22-24 named storms, 10-12 hurricanes, and 4-6 major hurricanes by the time the season is through.
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#410 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:43 pm

Ntxw wrote:Cristina looks good, Amanda has good company. EPAC rolling with the goods. No phantoms here!

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Pretty remarkable given how 1st year warm ENSO events sometimes have slow starts.
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#411 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:43 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:I'm expecting somewhere between 22-24 named storms, 10-12 hurricanes, and 4-6 major hurricanes by the time the season is through.


I definitely agree with these numbers. The EPAC has developed something with each passage of Kelvin waves too, without MJO at times. This most recent KW has dragged it's feet over this basin helping Cristina. I wonder if this will be a persistent theme here the rest of the way?
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#412 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:42 pm

Ntxw wrote:
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:I'm expecting somewhere between 22-24 named storms, 10-12 hurricanes, and 4-6 major hurricanes by the time the season is through.


I definitely agree with these numbers. The EPAC has developed something with each passage of Kelvin waves too, without MJO at times. This most recent KW has dragged it's feet over this basin helping Cristina. I wonder if this will be a persistent theme here the rest of the way?


I don't see why not with the El Nino ongoing.
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#413 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:40 am

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CMC shows stuff after Cristina. GFS has been acting dumb (see ATL threads), but shows nothing.
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Re: 2014 EPAC Season

#414 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:52 am

One word to say about how the 2014 EPAC season has begun is impressive. ACE is going up rapidly and as of the 09:00z advisory of Hurricane Cristina as a major cane (105kts) is 22.8225 units. Then there is this:

Cristina is the earliest second major hurricane formation in the
eastern Pacific since reliable records began in 1971, eclipsing the
former record of Darby (2010) by 13 days.
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#415 Postby euro6208 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:02 am

I am very surprised at this level of activity the epac is going through. I keep telling my self this is normal for an el nino :lol: This season will be very much interesting as all pacific basins erupts for this el nino...

Hoping for more interesting storms aka category 5's but no damages and casualties... :wink:
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#416 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:34 am

Cristina is making a run at Amandas peak of 150kts but I think it will be short of that but anyway is amazing how the conditions in the Eastern Pacific are this season.
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#417 Postby euro6208 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:49 am

cycloneye wrote:Cristina is making a run at Amandas peak of 150kts but I think it will be short of that but anyway is amazing how the conditions in the Eastern Pacific are this season.


150 knots or 135 knots? :lol:
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#418 Postby ninel conde » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:03 am

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:The MJO, while strong, is holding stationary in the Indian Ocean and West Pacific right now, and most models forecast it to move very little through the end of the month (dubious?). It should eventually eject into the West Hemisphere sometime in early to mid-July. Once that happens, the Pacific hurricane season will *really* get underway. I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see over 1 Category 5 hurricane by the time the season is through, especially once the atmosphere responds to the developing El Nino.

I'm expecting somewhere between 22-24 named storms, 10-12 hurricanes, and 4-6 major hurricanes by the time the season is through.


way too low on majors. i expect 8-10 as everything will over perform.
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#419 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:40 am

euro6208 wrote:I am very surprised at this level of activity the epac is going through. I keep telling my self this is normal for an el nino :lol: This season will be very much interesting as all pacific basins erupts for this el nino...

Hoping for more interesting storms aka category 5's but no damages and casualties... :wink:



Even for El Ninos, this is somewhat unusual, and unprecedented given the inactive phase we've been in since 1999.
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#420 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:42 am

ninel conde wrote:
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:The MJO, while strong, is holding stationary in the Indian Ocean and West Pacific right now, and most models forecast it to move very little through the end of the month (dubious?). It should eventually eject into the West Hemisphere sometime in early to mid-July. Once that happens, the Pacific hurricane season will *really* get underway. I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see over 1 Category 5 hurricane by the time the season is through, especially once the atmosphere responds to the developing El Nino.

I'm expecting somewhere between 22-24 named storms, 10-12 hurricanes, and 4-6 major hurricanes by the time the season is through.


way too low on majors. i expect 8-10 as everything will over perform.


The record all time is 10 in 1992. Problem is that there is too much warm water, and SSt's upwelling will result unless they are spaced out across the basin like 1992 as well.
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