ATL: ARTHUR - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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#961 Postby NDG » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:26 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
NDG wrote:Image


there you go.. quite clear.. surface obs .. recon before they left and radar all point to center being near the middle of the CDO at this time..


Winds in the western tip of Grand Bahama Island have switched to the WSW not from SSW any more so perhaps that's the new LLC to the north of them, so yes, I agree.
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#962 Postby GlennOBX » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:27 pm

The Dare County NC Control Group met this afternoon, and decided to make no decision on evacuations or any other actions until they meet again sometime tomorrow evening. IMHO, by that time it would be too late to pull the trigger on any significant evac order. I could be wrong.
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#963 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:28 pm

cycloneye wrote:The classic coma.

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It's this a sign of the system struggling or developing?
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#964 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:28 pm

NDG wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
NDG wrote:Image


there you go.. quite clear.. surface obs .. recon before they left and radar all point to center being near the middle of the CDO at this time..


Winds in the western tip of Grand Bahama Island have switched to the WSW not from SSW any more so perhaps that's the new LLC to the north of them, so yes, I agree.


correct. even the old vort to the west of moved inland and collapsed all thats left is the this one. I see no more evidence of any other vorts from radar or sat or surface obs..
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#965 Postby ozonepete » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:28 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Alyono wrote:There is NOT a CDO. In fact, convection appears to be weakening over the center and the big ball is being displaced east of the center. I don't see any shear, so this may just be a reorganization phase


and before recon left the found a circ within that..


The central dense overcast, or CDO, of a tropical cyclone or strong subtropical cyclone is the large central area of thunderstorms surrounding its circulation center, caused by the formation of its eye wall. It can be round, angular, oval, or irregular in shape. This feature shows up in tropical cyclones of tropical storm or hurricane strength. How far the center is embedded within the CDO, and the temperature difference between the cloud tops within the CDO and the cyclone's eye, can help determine a tropical cyclone's intensity. Locating the center within the CDO can be a problem for strong tropical storms and with systems of minimal hurricane strength as its location can be obscured by the CDO's high cloud canopy. This center location problem can be resolved through the use of microwave satellite imagery.


Aric, thanks for your answer. There's clearly a major circulation under that CDO; you can't miss it on radar and satellite correlation. It's actually a classic example of a CDO.
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#966 Postby weathernerdguy » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:29 pm

i guess that's the MLC, right guys?
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#967 Postby ozonepete » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:30 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
cycloneye wrote:The classic coma.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2a5nh3q.jpg

It's this a sign of the system struggling or developing?


Developing, and it looks like pretty rapidly now.
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#968 Postby Sanibel » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:32 pm

The air is noticeably muggy down here like hurricane nitro.
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#969 Postby xironman » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:32 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
cycloneye wrote:The classic coma.

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It's this a sign of the system struggling or developing?

The fist of development.
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#970 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:34 pm

So is the Center just north of Grand Bahama or farther north of that where the obvious spin is?
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#971 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:34 pm

Also like I mentioned the it would take a turn back the nw to wnw once it absorbed the other vort and quit rotating around it.. I would expect it to get rather close to the coast overnight..
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#972 Postby Frank2 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:35 pm

Looking at the WV loop is confusing - it gives the impression the system is moving ENE...

P.S. I'm using a tablet so am unable to post the image but perhaps one of the pro mets can take a look and see what they think...

Thanks
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#973 Postby MaineWeatherNut » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:36 pm

weathernerdguy wrote:i guess that's the MLC, right guys?


That's the LLC... The MLC and LLC may be getting stacked now...
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#974 Postby robbielyn » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:41 pm

Major blow-up with expanding CDO making it look like it's heading ene but it's not
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#975 Postby xironman » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:45 pm

From radar it looks like an eye wall forming.
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#976 Postby blp » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:46 pm

Nice blow-up. Glad to be tracking something in the tropics.

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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#977 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:47 pm

xironman wrote:From radar it looks like an eye wall forming.


yeah probably a proto one... not quite there yet.. but getting there pretty quickly
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#978 Postby artist » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:47 pm

Gonzo has been out there sampling for quite awhile. Looks like they are almost through.
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#979 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:52 pm

very classic of a couple curved band wrapping around the center.. if this keeps up going to start seeing and eye feature on radar..


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#980 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:54 pm

Recon headed back in tonight right...or wee hours of the morning anyway?
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