ATL: ARTHUR - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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#2181 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:27 pm

ravyrn wrote:
TheAustinMan wrote:TropicalAtlantic recon program (with the Google Earth plugin) which automatically decodes the recon data. Not sure if gusts or sustained, depends on what dropsondes typically measure.


Where can I find the raw dropsonde data? Is it reported on the NHC site? And thank you for the explanation RL3AO.

http://tropicalatlantic.com/recon/
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#2182 Postby Time_Zone » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:27 pm

I don't think that 89 KTS reading was accurate.
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Hurricane - Discussion

#2183 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:27 pm

windnrain wrote:So am I correct in assuming the NHC completely blew it by not issuing warnings by now? It's pretty clear that the eyewall of a borderline category 1-2 storm is getting mighty close to an unwarned area.


If they thought Wilmington needed a warning they would have issued it by now. They are still probably confident that the area not in the hurricane warning will not receive hurricane conditions.
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Hurricane - Discussion

#2184 Postby Hurricane_Luis » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:28 pm

ravyrn wrote:
TheAustinMan wrote:TropicalAtlantic recon program (with the Google Earth plugin) which automatically decodes the recon data. Not sure if gusts or sustained, depends on what dropsondes typically measure.


Where can I find the raw dropsonde data? Is it reported on the NHC site? And thank you for the explanation RL3AO.


Is this of use, ravyrn. No idea what it is but it might mean something to you.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPNT3.shtml

If its no, I will keep searching.
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#2185 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:29 pm

A decoded version of that sonde and its location:

Note: Sonde has since been corrected for direction from eyewall released:
Dropsonde Location: Dropped in eyewall 045° (NE) from the eye center.

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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Hurricane - Discussion

#2186 Postby windnrain » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:30 pm

RL3AO wrote:
windnrain wrote:So am I correct in assuming the NHC completely blew it by not issuing warnings by now? It's pretty clear that the eyewall of a borderline category 1-2 storm is getting mighty close to an unwarned area.


If they thought Wilmington needed a warning they would have issued it by now. They are still probably confident that the area not in the hurricane warning will not receive hurricane conditions.


I understand what they think, but hell, look at that center fix that was just posted. Just one more of those and the eyewall of a strengthening hurricane is right over an unwarned area.
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Hurricane - Discussion

#2187 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:31 pm

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windnrain wrote:So am I correct in assuming the NHC completely blew it by not issuing warnings by now? It's pretty clear that the eyewall of a borderline category 1-2 storm is getting mighty close to an unwarned area.


If they thought Wilmington needed a warning they would have issued it by now. They are still probably confident that the area not in the hurricane warning will not receive hurricane conditions.


I understand what they think, but hell, look at that center fix that was just posted. Just one more of those and the eyewall of a strengthening hurricane is right over an unwarned area.


Well I'm not at the NHC. However 1) They are under a watch. 2) They will be on the weakest side of the storm.
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#2188 Postby ravyrn » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:31 pm

RL3AO wrote:Yes it is on NHC's site. However this will show the latest from the NOAA flight and the AF flight. If you just want the latest from the AF flight into the eye, use this.

ftp://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/raw/uz/uznt13.knhc..txt


Okay, thanks. I just found the dropsondes on Google Earth are the little telescope looking icon. Learn something new every day!
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#2189 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:33 pm

Miss Piggy en route from Tampa.
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#2190 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:34 pm

ravyrn wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Yes it is on NHC's site. However this will show the latest from the NOAA flight and the AF flight. If you just want the latest from the AF flight into the eye, use this.

ftp://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/raw/uz/uznt13.knhc..txt


Okay, thanks. I just found the dropsondes on Google Earth are the little telescope looking icon. Learn something new every day!

Here is a little tutorial I have on those images in the program:
http://tropicalatlantic.com/recon/pages ... _tutorial/

The new system I am working on will have a better tutorial.
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Hurricane - Discussion

#2191 Postby TexasF6 » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:34 pm

EURO Ensembles are further WEST as well, NE sees Arthur.........per wxbell :flag:

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#2193 Postby ravyrn » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:36 pm

Chris_in_Tampa wrote:
ravyrn wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Yes it is on NHC's site. However this will show the latest from the NOAA flight and the AF flight. If you just want the latest from the AF flight into the eye, use this.

ftp://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/raw/uz/uznt13.knhc..txt


Okay, thanks. I just found the dropsondes on Google Earth are the little telescope looking icon. Learn something new every day!

Here is a little tutorial I have on those images in the program:
http://tropicalatlantic.com/recon/pages ... _tutorial/

The new system I am working on will have a better tutorial.


Thanks!
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Hurricane - Discussion

#2194 Postby artist » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:36 pm

windnrain wrote:
RL3AO wrote:
windnrain wrote:So am I correct in assuming the NHC completely blew it by not issuing warnings by now? It's pretty clear that the eyewall of a borderline category 1-2 storm is getting mighty close to an unwarned area.


If they thought Wilmington needed a warning they would have issued it by now. They are still probably confident that the area not in the hurricane warning will not receive hurricane conditions.


I understand what they think, but hell, look at that center fix that was just posted. Just one more of those and the eyewall of a strengthening hurricane is right over an unwarned area.


according to the NWS page for them they are under tropical storm warnings and a hurricane watch. and a tornado watch
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.ph ... 7.9113&e=1
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#2195 Postby TheAustinMan » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:41 pm

Long Beach, NC may be the first land location (besides Grand Bahama Island a few days ago) to get a glimpse of Arthur's centralized convection.

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#2196 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:41 pm

more and more wobbling closer to south port and wilmington... not too much longer more


just did a pretty good jog to the NNE
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#2197 Postby Hurricane_Luis » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:43 pm

Latest plane has just gone over the Florida coast 390 kilometres south west from the centre of Arthur.

(The things you can find out with google earth :lol: )
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Hurricane - Discussion

#2198 Postby Kohlecane » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:45 pm

Can someone post a good link for a vis. And an IR thank you
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Hurricane - Discussion

#2199 Postby SunnyThoughts » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:46 pm

Kohlecane wrote:Can someone post a good link for a vis. And an IR thank you

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/
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Re: ATL: ARTHUR - Hurricane - Discussion

#2200 Postby Kohlecane » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:47 pm

Kohlecane wrote:Can someone post a good link for a vis. And an IR thank you

Preferably a loop
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