Tropical Wave in Eastern Atlantic

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#141 Postby fendie » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:48 pm

djones65 wrote:An invest is ONLY declared when there is sufficient evidence of a "closed low," or low pressure are. Not necessarily a well defined closed circulation, but does require a low pressure area with surface rotation. There is not a low pressure area at this time and not forecast to develop for another day or so. I suspect if models are close to accurate that more robust turning or closing off from wave to a low will occur in about 30-36 hours. So invest designation will probably occur early Tuesday in my humble opinion.


From the Glossary of NHC Terms: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutgloss.shtml

"Invest:
A weather system for which a tropical cyclone forecast center (NHC, CPHC, or JTWC) is interested in collecting specialized data sets (e.g., microwave imagery) and/or running model guidance. Once a system has been designated as an invest, data collection and processing is initiated on a number of government and academic web sites, including the Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) and the University of Wisconsin Cooperative Institute for Meteorological Satellite Studies (UW-CIMSS). The designation of a system as an invest does not correspond to any particular likelihood of development of the system into a tropical cyclone; operational products such as the Tropical Weather Outlook or the JTWC/TCFA should be consulted for this purpose."

Sounds to me like an invest is simply a 'weather system' the NHC would like to investigate for any number of reasons. Not seeing anything regarding a "closed low" or "low pressure area."
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Re: Tropical Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#142 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:51 pm

For sure it will be a very interesting week ahead as we follow every model run,looking at sat images,the TWO's,how the pattern shapes up as time goes by etc,etc for soon to be 93L.
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#143 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:04 pm

What a difference 24hrs. makes in terms of coverage of SAL. There is still plenty though to cause some problems. :darrow:
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Mid-Level Dry Air also looks like it will be an issue. :darrow:
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#144 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:14 pm

Maybe the locomotive has left the station. :eek:
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#145 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:19 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:What a difference 24hrs. makes in terms of coverage of SAL. There is still plenty though to cause some problems. :darrow:
http://i62.tinypic.com/20fsxfo.jpg

Mid-Level Dry Air also looks like it will be an issue. :darrow:
http://i60.tinypic.com/2d95hrn.jpg


Tropical wave activity is picking up. The more there are, the more chance some of them could develop.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#146 Postby Frank2 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:36 pm

The TWO mentions a WNW movement of the area later in the week, because the subtropical high is forcast to move NE to be replaced by a trough off the EC...
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#147 Postby tropicwatch » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:42 pm

Trough's might be a little stronger then usual coming off the east coast this time of year but they are still stalling/breaking down in the north Florida region. I don't think this system will be drawn northward unless it goes north of Puerto Rico. I am not so sure that is going to happen. JMO!
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#148 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:15 pm

i think invest if system keep looking better will be on tue or wed i think we see plane go to invest or td by thur but alot water for it go untill thur let see how look by than
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Re: Tropical Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#149 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:18 pm

other thing i notice their upper low north of PR moving south that causing shear north PR and ull not moving out fast that need move out if we see tropical storm
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Re: Tropical Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#150 Postby SFLcane » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:26 pm

Frank2 wrote:The TWO mentions a WNW movement of the area later in the week, because the subtropical high is forcast to move NE to be replaced by a trough off the EC...


Ah! Been that way last 10 yrs it seems . Still early in the game
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Re: Tropical Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#151 Postby blp » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:27 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#152 Postby blp » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:40 pm

Has a long way to go. Tomorrow might be a different story.

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Re: Tropical Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#153 Postby NDG » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:12 pm

0z GFS through 126 hrs:

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Re: Tropical Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#154 Postby hurrtracker79 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:51 pm

0Z GFS is trending further west than previous runs. Recurving west of Bermuda now. More Atlantic ridging than previous runs. Lot of time for models to go back and forth. I wouldn't rule out anything at this stage.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#155 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:01 am

hurrtracker79 wrote:0Z GFS is trending further west than previous runs. Recurving west of Bermuda now. More Atlantic ridging than previous runs. Lot of time for models to go back and forth. I wouldn't rule out anything at this stage.


the thing is looking at the mid level ridging it seems to plow right into it, I do expect adjustments farther west in later runs. One other thing is that the low near the Azores seems to cause a little bit of a pull on this system but what if this pull is muted or non existent then there may be anxious moments in the SEUS and Florida if the ridge build back in in any way

As for the windward islands, Puerto Rico and Hispaniola these places need to monitor this as it could be a strong TS{if the GFS is right in any way} or at the very least a drought relief for Puerto Rico

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Re: Tropical Wave in Eastern Atlantic

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#157 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:30 am

This is now Invest 93L.

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