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#521 Postby Alyono » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:21 pm

something looks a bit off in that run Seeing the ridge sufficiently to the north, plus a NW wobble just after clearing the island

Could the GFS be trying to replicate mountain effects?
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#522 Postby Equilibrium » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:30 pm

ISELLE has weakened significantly.

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#523 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:32 pm

Equilibrium wrote:ISELLE has weakened significantly.

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And where did you get that information from?
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#524 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:35 pm

It did weakened significantly compare to peak intensity but that was expected
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#525 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:35 pm

Alyono wrote:something looks a bit off in that run Seeing the ridge sufficiently to the north, plus a NW wobble just after clearing the island

Could the GFS be trying to replicate mountain effects?


Perhaps. The Mountains have acted as mini steering current with these kinds of systems before (last two Flossie's)
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#526 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:35 pm

Equilibrium wrote:ISELLE has weakened significantly.

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Not much more than expected.
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#527 Postby Equilibrium » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:39 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Equilibrium wrote:ISELLE has weakened significantly.

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#528 Postby Alyono » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:44 pm

Flossie in 2007 also was coming in from very far to the south (it was down near 12.5N when it was at Iselle's longitude) and was never forecast to make a landfall. Too much ridging in that case
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#529 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:52 pm

Equilibrium wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
Equilibrium wrote:ISELLE has weakened significantly.

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That doesn't suggest much weakening. Only the N side has been sampled.
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#530 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:54 pm

Alyono wrote:Flossie in 2007 also was coming in from very far to the south (it was down near 12.5N when it was at Iselle's longitude) and was never forecast to make a landfall. Too much ridging in that case


What about Flossie 2013 and how its LLC kept reforming north IIRC?
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#531 Postby Alyono » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:56 pm

shear for last year's Flossie. The center will often reform closer to the convection in a weak TC when there is a high shear environment
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#532 Postby Equilibrium » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:57 pm

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Equilibrium wrote:ISELLE has weakened significantly.

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Not much more than expected.


I did not think would weaken as much as it has considering it was annular in structure.

This was a solid cat 4



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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#533 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:00 am

Extrap 972mb on this set and still away from center

Iselle is weakening very slowly if any
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#534 Postby Equilibrium » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:05 am

This was a solid cat 4 what are you talking about yellow
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#535 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:05 am

Equilibrium wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:
Equilibrium wrote:ISELLE has weakened significantly.

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Not much more than expected.


I did not think would weaken as much as it has considering it was annular in structure.

This was a solid cat 4



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It's weakening at a climatological rate. It's probs around 90 knts now. It was 115 knts at this time yesterday.

It's amazing that this became a Cat 4 despite the conditions. And it lost its annular structure.

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#536 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:08 am

Equilibrium wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:
Equilibrium wrote:ISELLE has weakened significantly.

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Not much more than expected.


I did not think would weaken as much as it has considering it was annular in structure.

This was a solid cat 4



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It actually was never forecast to even be a major hurricane. The waters it was travesting can't even maintain major hurricanes in the first place. It over achieved.
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#537 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:08 am

Equilibrium wrote:This was a solid cat 4 what are you talking about yellow


Yea, it was. And now, it's probs a mid to high end Cat 2 after 30 hours. Not totally unreasonable.
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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#538 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:09 am

supercane4867 wrote:Extrap 972mb on this set and still away from center

Iselle is weakening very slowly if any


West is where the eyewall opened after it weakened. Looks like the weakening has slowed down considerably.

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#539 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:13 am

Equilibrium wrote:I did not think would weaken as much as it has considering it was annular in structure.

This was a solid cat 4


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Being annular doesn't makes one invincible, such structure helped Iselle to maintain intensity in an environment that already not ideal for a hurricane. When it met even worse conditions it would weaken
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#540 Postby AFWeather » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:18 am

Interested to see if/how quickly the structure improves post-annular. The pressure is at least 5mb lower than the last advisory's estimate. The shear will be a non-issue soon... It's all about those SSTs!
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