Tropical Wave east of Lesser Antilles (Is Invest 96L)

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Re: Tropical Wave West of CV Islands (Pouch 017L)

#101 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:13 pm

SFLcane wrote:Its got some pretty good spin to it but may choke in sinking air near by.
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=12

Good loop, thanks for sharing. From what I can see, popcorn convection is increasing around the "llc" tonight...this is a good sign as it looks to be fighting the SAL.

Also there is a bouy out there near this pouch and it is reporting light winds out of the west the past day or so:

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41026
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#102 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:19 pm

:uarrow: Still has a ways to go but making decent progress IMO for a wave traversing through hostile conditions.
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#103 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:22 pm

Notice the area around this wave was trying to gradually moisten up, but has since been stabilizing again(clouds are waning).

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Re: Tropical Wave West of CV Islands (Pouch 017L)

#104 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:53 pm

This is going to have to be watched especially those in the NE windward islands, Puerto Rico and Hispaniola first but beyond that is anyone's guess

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Re: Tropical Wave West of CV Islands (Pouch 017L)

#105 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:43 am

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 AM EDT SUN AUG 17 2014

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. A broad low pressure area located about 1000 miles west-southwest
of the Cape Verde Islands is producing disorganized cloudiness and
showers. Some gradual development of this system is possible during
the next few days while it begins to move slowly westward across the
central tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

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#106 Postby Alyono » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:53 am

and the EC now, while still briefly developing this, rapidly weakens it as it approaches the Caribbean. More reasonable solution
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#107 Postby ninel conde » Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:40 am

air is just too dry.
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Re: Tropical Wave West of CV Islands (Pouch 017L)

#108 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:20 am

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SUN AUG 17 2014

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

A broad low pressure area located midway between the Lesser Antilles
and the Cape Verde Islands is producing disorganized cloudiness and
showers. Some gradual development of this system is possible during
the next few days while it moves slowly westward across the central
tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

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#109 Postby Alyono » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:45 am

In the unlikely event that anything does form, it likely will be very weak and recurve east of Bermuda. Not even any low level ridging to force this to the west
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Re: Tropical Wave midway between CV Islands and Lesser Antilles

#110 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:34 am

There is some competition going on between small monsoon gyres,one around 12N-39W and another at 12N-28W. Maybe this is what have the models not being too clear on development and track. IMO,the one at 12N-39W looks like the dominant right now but that could change.

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Re: Tropical Wave midway between CV Islands and Lesser Antilles

#111 Postby SFLcane » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:38 am

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Expect probabilities to increase w/ Atlantic MDR invest. EC ENS shows increased risk for Southeastern U.S. landfall.

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Re: Tropical Wave midway between CV Islands and Lesser Antilles

#112 Postby blp » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:53 am

UKmet from 00z continues to be optimistic about development. It is considered one of the most conservative models. This and Euro being onboard has my attention since they both are conservative.

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Re: Tropical Wave midway between CV Islands and Lesser Antilles

#113 Postby blp » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:10 am

I see three different scenarios playing out in the models right now. The UKmet is furthest west followed by the Euro in the middle and the GFS/CMC/Navgem furthest east. The models are struggling to pinpoint where development will form out of what looks like a big monsoon gyre. Very complicated evolution. I think looking at anything beyond 5 days is very speculative since the origin of development will dictate where it will be when a weakness develops in the ridge.
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Re: Tropical Wave midway between CV Islands and Lesser Antilles

#114 Postby chaser1 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:18 am

Given the dry air and light shear and being such a broad system, if it does increase in organization.... at least it won't be something that will be "sneaking up" and catching people without warning. On the other hand, if you look farther west and at the preceeding wave that more or less "poofed" as it traversed the Eastern Caribbean and got tangled up with D.R./Haiti, suddenly I am seeing a ramp up of convection on its northern axis. Now, here we have a former invest with plenty of spin that might well be in an environment that is less hostile. As a very small area of vorticity, these type of systems could ramp up fairly quickly (given optimum conditions). Be interesting to see if this area of convection just north of Haiti were to increase in area & maintain itself throughout the day.
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Re: Tropical Wave midway between CV Islands and Lesser Antilles

#115 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:01 pm

Well,the Canadian is the Canadian. :)

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#116 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:01 pm

12Z GEM has the most bullish run yet and similar to the ECMWF on track. Yikes for Bermuda if this verifies!

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#117 Postby tropicwatch » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:02 pm

Struggling to get convection going to day.
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Re: Tropical Wave midway between CV Islands and Lesser Antilles

#118 Postby Riptide » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:16 pm

Yeah, the GFS Ensembles and GEM are really enthusiastic about this system. The vast majority of ensemble members feature a SE landfall or East Coast scenario.
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#119 Postby Alyono » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:18 pm

CMC develops this WAY too soon. Not even close to reality

As for a US threat, won't we need a Bermuda HIGH? The operational models are all showing a Bermuda LOW
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#120 Postby Riptide » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:36 pm

Alyono wrote:CMC develops this WAY too soon. Not even close to reality

As for a US threat, won't we need a Bermuda HIGH? The operational models are all showing a Bermuda LOW

50/50 chance, could go either way. I don't expect the 500mb pattern to hold this far out and clearly the ensembles are seeing something the operational is not picking up on.
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