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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#981 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:26 am

Based on this sat loop:

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=21&lon=-72&info=vis&zoom=1&width=1200&height=700&quality=95&type=Animation&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=15

I see what is either an eddy or LLC forming and convection steadily building in bands around it. Slow and steady progress.

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#982 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:27 am

This is starting to become a broken record. :roll:
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#983 Postby SeGaBob » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:28 am

:uarrow: I agree with you about that. :)
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#984 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:29 am

We are just one VDM away from advisories rolling.
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#985 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:30 am

Movement has slowed down to a snails pace compared to the past couple of days.
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#986 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:30 am

SeGaBob wrote::uarrow: I agree with you about that. :)


I hear you, but IMO this is going to happen pretty soon... The structure is almost there, upper levels seem good, and SST's are boiling... I bet we see Cristobal before the end of the day...
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#987 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:30 am

NWS Miami snippet, before the 06Z GFS run came out which shifted it back to South Florida:

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 255 AM EDT SAT AUG 23 2014/

SOME UNCERTAINTY WILL BEGIN TO TAKE SHAPE ON MONDAY AS THE RIDGE
CENTERED ALONG THE CENTRAL GULF COAST BUILDS NORTH AS A TROUGH MOVES
INTO THE NORTH ATLANTIC. THE TROPICAL DISTURBANCE CURRENTLY LOCATED
ALONG THE NORTH COAST OF HISPANIOLA IS FORECAST TO MOVE INTO THE
CENTRAL BAHAMAS LATE SUNDAY OR MONDAY. THE 18Z RUN OF THE GFS GAVE
SOUTH FLORIDA A LITTLE BIT OF A SCARE BUT THE 00Z RUN HAS NOW
SHIFTED BACK TO THE EAST. THE ECMWF IS FARTHER TO THE EAST WITH ITS
DEVELOPMENT AND HAS ALSO BEEN MORE CONSISTENT WITH THIS TRACK
GUIDANCE.
THE ECMWF ALSO SHOWS THE TROUGH MOVING INTO THE ATLANTIC
STRONGER AND DEEPER WITH A SUBSTANTIAL MOISTURE INCREASE ACROSS
SOUTH FLORIDA WITH PWAT INCREASING BACK TO OVER TWO INCHES. BOTH
MODELS INDICATE A NORTHEAST STEERING FLOW DEVELOPING AND THIS WOULD
STILL GEAR STORM COVERAGE TOWARDS THE INTERIOR AND SOUTHWEST
COAST.

LONG TERM (TUESDAY-FRIDAY)...
THE FIRST PART OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD REMAIN UNCERTAIN AT THIS TIME
AS TO THE TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT. IF THE SYSTEM DOES INDEED DEVELOP,
IT WILL ALL DEPEND ON THE STRENGTH OF THE NORTHERN TROUGH AXIS
AND THE RIDGE OVER THE SOUTHEAST STATES. MOST MODEL GUIDANCE IS
KEEPING THE SYSTEM TO THE EAST OF THE FLORIDA PENINSULA, BUT IF
THE RIDGE BUILDS STRONG ENOUGH AND THE TROUGH IS NOT QUITE AS DEEP
AS CURRENTLY BEING FORECAST THEN A WESTWARD SHIFT IS NOT OUT OF
THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. IN OTHER WORDS, CONTINUE TO MONITOR
FORECASTS FROM NHC.
IN THE LATTER HALF OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD INTO
THE END OF THE WEEK, A DEEP LAYER RIDGE IS FORECAST TO RETURN TO
SOUTH FLORIDA WITH ABUNDANT TROPICAL MOISTURE AND PWAT RETURNING
TO NEAR 2 INCHES.

http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php ... glossary=1
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#988 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:31 am

Less than an hour till TEAL 76 takes off. Ah, back to the good old days of recon watching.

Anyway, my guess is they initiate advisories at 5pm. Not a professional opinion, just mine.

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#989 Postby Hammy » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:32 am

Morning satellite tells me that this missed it's shot at development. On to September.
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#990 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:33 am

Hammy wrote:Morning satellite tells me that this missed it's shot at development. On to September.

Um...what?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#991 Postby tailgater » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:33 am

There is a small eddy in the pass between Cuba and Hispanola needs to watched also. I don't think we have a COC determined yet.
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#992 Postby psyclone » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:33 am

If this thing ever does develop a center it has the appearance of a large system capable of generating squally weather well away from the center. I realize they sometimes contract as they intensify but this one looks big. at the very least the east coast should get some hazardous surf and rips and probably some beach erosion with that long fetch.
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#993 Postby SeGaBob » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:33 am

Hammy wrote:Morning satellite tells me that this missed it's shot at development. On to September.



I wouldn't say that...still has very good model support.
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#994 Postby toad strangler » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:35 am

I agree and probably goes without saying the the mountains of Hispaniola are inhibiting the struggling wave big time. The real interesting part is incoming as 96L moves into the much more conducive Bahama region.

If there was anytime for a true Bahama Mama this would be one of those rare chances.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#995 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:36 am

Blown Away wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
Blown Away wrote:Image

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html

If you watch the loop, it appears a weak LLC is heading W at 20.5N/71.3W...

another 12 hours of model and real weather trends and the generator is going to be started...we havent seen anything this close in a long time


You are a nice guy letting the local mets hype this up a little before you fire up that generator... Living on the edge a little, in past years you didn't wait this long... :D


im a euro hugger..waiting for that to come on board and than i will have had enough of this speculation and time for action
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#996 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:40 am

I would had much rather waited for the recon to investigate 96L by 0z rather than 18z, not sure if a well defined LLC can form that quickly, circulation is still broad.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#997 Postby wzrgirl1 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:41 am

When does the Euro come out?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#998 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:42 am

wzrgirl1 wrote:When does the Euro come out?

1-2ish in the afternoon
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#999 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:42 am

The pressure may be in the 990s before getting declared, wouldn't that be the lowest pressure to be a declared tropical cyclone in that area since Nicole in 2010 and another thing is it could be a strong tropical storm at first advisory which is a rare occurence for first advisories

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#1000 Postby toad strangler » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:44 am

NDG wrote:I would had much rather waited for the recon to investigate 96L by 0z rather than 18z, not sure if a well defined LLC can form that quickly, circulation is still broad.



yeah, despite general model support 96L is a strung out hot mess at this moment. That is for sure.
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