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#281 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:03 pm

weathernerdguy wrote:Is anyone noticeing a dent in the middle of the CDO?


Yes. I really hope that is an eye.
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#282 Postby weathernerdguy » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:45 pm

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#283 Postby weathernerdguy » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:47 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
weathernerdguy wrote:Is anyone noticeing a dent in the middle of the CDO?


Yes. I really hope that is an eye.

I think it is a eye now...
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#284 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:49 pm

When is the eye gonna appear? It's been hinting at one for hours.
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#285 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:51 pm

What's the land elevation there to the northeast?

Could that have any effect on slowing spin-up?
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#286 Postby Hurricane_Luis » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:56 pm

weathernerdguy wrote:Is anyone noticeing a dent in the middle of the CDO?


Yep. Been there for a few hours now. Marie is definatly trying to form an eye.
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#287 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:05 pm

WeatherGuesser wrote:What's the land elevation there to the northeast?

Could that have any effect on slowing spin-up?


Way too far northeast to have an affect IMO. This area gets so many hurricanes after all, and many Cat 4's and 5's have occurred closer to the coast.
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#288 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:07 pm

Hurricane_Luis wrote:
weathernerdguy wrote:Is anyone noticeing a dent in the middle of the CDO?


Yep. Been there for a few hours now. Marie is definatly trying to form an eye.


Yet, no eye has formed yet still.
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#289 Postby weathernerdguy » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:42 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Hurricane_Luis wrote:
weathernerdguy wrote:Is anyone noticeing a dent in the middle of the CDO?


Yep. Been there for a few hours now. Marie is definatly trying to form an eye.


Yet, no eye has formed yet still.

the dent would be the eye.....
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#290 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:48 pm

weathernerdguy wrote:[
the dent would be the eye.....


Well, no true eye. It hasn't cleared out. And it's been 12 hours now.
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#291 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:52 pm

It's doing a Celia 10 on us.

EP, 13, 2014082318, , BEST, 0, 149N, 1070W, 75, 983, HU, 34, NEQ, 100, 90, 80, 90, 1009, 240, 15, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, MARIE, D,
EP, 13, 2014082318, , BEST, 0, 149N, 1070W, 75, 983, HU, 50, NEQ, 50, 40, 30, 40, 1009, 240, 15, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, MARIE, D,
EP, 13, 2014082318, , BEST, 0, 149N, 1070W, 75, 983, HU, 64, NEQ, 30, 20, 10, 20, 1009, 240, 15, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, MARIE, D,
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#292 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:52 pm

It's problem was that it started off with extremely cold tops. For an eye to show, those clouds need to warm some.

Still see this topping off as a Category 5 at least. Unless some surprise shear gets in the way.
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#293 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:58 pm

Kingarabian wrote:It's problem was that it started off with extremely cold tops. For an eye to show, those clouds need to warm some.

Still see this topping off as a Category 5 at least. Unless some surprise shear gets in the way.
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I'm not too worried about the warming cloud tops. I'm worried about the eye taking forever to clear out.
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#294 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:11 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:It's problem was that it started off with extremely cold tops. For an eye to show, those clouds need to warm some.

Still see this topping off as a Category 5 at least. Unless some surprise shear gets in the way.
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I'm not too worried about the warming cloud tops. I'm worried about the eye taking forever to clear out.


Warm spot in between the CDO has been there for a while now. Wonder if it'll be pinhole esque?
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#295 Postby wxmann_91 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:17 pm

A lot of storms stairstep their way to beast mode status, going through a few rounds of RI, instead of EI'ing all way. It's okay.

The GFS shear forecast per the latest NHC discussion does honestly concern me though.
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#296 Postby wxmann_91 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:22 pm

Oh, and if you check the latest microwave it's clear that some dry air has wrapped around the circulation, again not surprisingly given how large Marie is. More likely than not intensification will be gradual from here on out.
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#297 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:24 pm

If is gradual then time will run out to be a cat 3-4.
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#298 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:26 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:A lot of storms stairstep their way to beast mode status, going through a few rounds of RI, instead of EI'ing all way. It's okay.

The GFS shear forecast per the latest NHC discussion does honestly concern me though.


It's been not initializing correctly more often than not the whole way through. It's not something new.
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#299 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:27 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:Oh, and if you check the latest microwave it's clear that some dry air has wrapped around the circulation, again not surprisingly given how large Marie is. More likely than not intensification will be gradual from here on out.


Maybe. But I've seen systems bomb out despite near-dry air. It happens sometimes in the EPAC.
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#300 Postby supercane4867 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:43 pm

EYE?

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I just can't think a reason for it not to continue rapidly intensify other than possible structure issue that is not really caused by either shear or dry air
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