ATL: CRISTOBAL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[Blown Away]

Way to go Cristobal!! We got 2 hurricanes so far, not to bad for August 26th...

[Syx6sic]

Way to go Cristobal!! We got 2 hurricanes so far, not to bad for August 26th...

We have had 3 hurricanes this year

[Blown Away]

Way to go Cristobal!! We got 2 hurricanes so far, not to bad for August 26th...

We have had 3 hurricanes this year

Oh yea, forgot Arthur made it... Even better, 3 canes by August 26th...

[Hurricaneman]

Definitley one of those quality over quantity years
back on topic this is starting to really get the frontal look based on being connected to the trough but also seems to be getting more convection around the center

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[TheStormExpert]

Definitley one of those quality over quantity years
back on topic this is starting to really get the frontal look based on being connected to the trough but also seems to be getting more convection around the center

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I wouldn't call Bertha a quality storm, it looked like a total mess at it's peak!

[WeatherGuesser]

Definitley one of those quality over quantity years

I'd reverse that; quantity over quality.

[CrazyC83]

I wonder what is allowing storms to get more intense than their satellite signature?

[HurricaneRyan]

Cristobal and Bertha being slow-burner hits like Lights by Ellie Goulding LMAO

[Hurricaneman]

Definitley one of those quality over quantity years

I'd reverse that; quantity over quality.

Was just comparing it to last year

[HURAKAN]

I wonder what is allowing storms to get more intense than their satellite signature?

dry air and shear

[Hammy]

Convection has wrapped almost all the way around the center for the first time.

[Airboy]

Convection has wrapped almost all the way around the center for the first time.

Looks like the recon finds stronger winds also, if I'm not mistaken.

[SapphireSea]

I would hazard to guess that the higher winds found in Cristobal have alot to do with pressure gradients with higher pressures on each side. Shear is high all around the storm, and is likely why it still looks like part of a frontal system. As soon as it gets a shot of baroclinic energy it should take off as an extratropical system.

[tolakram]

30 frame live visible: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=28&lon=-71&info=vis&zoom=1&width=1000&height=800&quality=95&type=Animation&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=30

[tolakram]

Latest

[Hybridstorm_November2001]

The structure still seems, and looks, subtropical to me.

[Sanibel]

I wonder what is allowing storms to get more intense than their satellite signature?

Latent energy from untapped SST's would be my guess. Climatology. Like having a category 3 or 4 system that averages out to a category 1 after all the negatives are added in.

Cristobal is wrapping and heading NNE.

[SapphireSea]

I agree. This looks like a subtropical system. That is one huge trof extending into the straits and into the GOM. I wonder what the wind radii are; It has been windy down here in Miami (more than average anyways) I suspect that wind swath is fairly large.

[TheEuropean]

I added some obs of AF mission earlier and NOAA mission ongoing in Recon thread.

latest data shows pressure drop dramatically, extrapolated 978.5 mb

[TheEuropean]

NOAA pressure data far too low?

000
URNT12 KWBC 262012
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL042014
A. 26/19:56:54Z
B. 28 deg 37 min N
071 deg 27 min W
C. NA
D. 60 kt
E. 256 deg 9 nm
F. 337 deg 53 kt
G. 254 deg 16 nm
H. 986 mb
I. 15 C / 2384 m
J. 18 C / 2421 m
K. 14 C / NA
L. OPEN EAST
M. C40
N. 12345 / NA
O. 1 / 3 nm
P. NOAA3 1704A CRISTOBAL OB 06
MAX OUTBOUND FL WIND AND MAX FL WIND 75 KT 089 / 45 NM 20:07:34Z
MAX FL TEMP 18 C 089 / 8 NM FROM FL CNTR
CNTR DROPSONDE SFC WIND 320 / 21 KTS