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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion
Thanks for boiling it down and framing the appropriate spot, folks. Nice series of loop images and really shows us what's going on (and what's not.)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion
Looks like convection is trying to get going around the coc for the first time.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion
I don't think it'll make it to TD before it moves inland in 11-12 hours. Maybe not much rain for TX, either.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion
Yes it sure does.....I take back my "poof" post.

redneckweather wrote:Looks like convection is trying to get going around the coc for the first time.
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Well it is still contending with some 20-30kt windshear.
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Local mets (SETX, Beaumont area) just gave this update:
The Hurricane Hunters investigated low pressure in the Western Gulf of Mexico east of Padre Island. They found that this system is not strong enough to be classified as a depression at this point. Regardless, low pressure has formed and will need to be further monitored. The system has not strengthened due to dry air and shear. However, this could change with a low chance of the system becoming a depression as it nears the Lower Texas Coast.
The Hurricane Hunters investigated low pressure in the Western Gulf of Mexico east of Padre Island. They found that this system is not strong enough to be classified as a depression at this point. Regardless, low pressure has formed and will need to be further monitored. The system has not strengthened due to dry air and shear. However, this could change with a low chance of the system becoming a depression as it nears the Lower Texas Coast.
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Interesting visible photo showing classic "shearing" of thunderstorms limiting any additional strengthening of the low pressure area over the west central Gulf. If the stronger southwest winds weaken over the next 24 hours there is some potential for better organization of this system as it drifts southwest. In any case, we are expecting the rain chances to increase today over the coastal waters and tonight and Thursday across the RGV and much of Deep South Texas. Think Rain!

Interesting visible photo showing classic "shearing" of thunderstorms limiting any additional strengthening of the low pressure area over the west central Gulf. If the stronger southwest winds weaken over the next 24 hours there is some potential for better organization of this system as it drifts southwest. In any case, we are expecting the rain chances to increase today over the coastal waters and tonight and Thursday across the RGV and much of Deep South Texas. Think Rain!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion
There's a pretty decent band over Brazoria county now. I just drove to the bank in Lake Jackson and the rain rate was probably 2+ inches an hour. I've had 0.25" on the gauge here, most within the last 15 minutes.
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From David Paul, our local OCM (KHOU) on his Facebook page:
Hurricane Hunter aircraft is on it's way home after investigating the disturbance in the Gulf. Strongest winds were only about 23 mph so not upgrading it at this time. Were getting a few passing showers and thunderstorms along and south of I-10 to the coast. Rain chances expected to increase later in the week and weekend as the system sends more moisture our way. We'll show you what to expect on 11 News at 4-5 & 6.
Hurricane Hunter aircraft is on it's way home after investigating the disturbance in the Gulf. Strongest winds were only about 23 mph so not upgrading it at this time. Were getting a few passing showers and thunderstorms along and south of I-10 to the coast. Rain chances expected to increase later in the week and weekend as the system sends more moisture our way. We'll show you what to expect on 11 News at 4-5 & 6.
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BROWNSVILLE TX
309 PM CDT WED AUG 27 2014
.SHORT TERM.../NOW THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/...SURFACE LOW IS LOCATED
ABOUT 150 MILES ENE OF BROWNSVILLE AS OF 2 PM TODAY. SCATTERED
CONVECTION CONTINUES TO DEVELOP AROUND THE LOW WITH ISOLATED SHOWERS
ACROSS THE COASTAL COUNTIES ALONG THE QUASI-STATIONARY SEA BREEZE.
THE LOW CONTINUES TO TRACK WSW AROUND THE PERIPHERY OF THE MID TO
UPPER RIDGE OVER SOUTHERN STATES. THIS WILL DIRECT THE LOW TOWARDS
THE LOWER TX COAST TONIGHT AND OVER THE RGV THURSDAY.
FOR TONIGHT...MODELS SUGGEST THE UPPER LEVEL WINDS TO WEAKEN WHICH
COULD RESULT IN DEEP CONVECTION INCREASING AROUND THE CENTER OF THE
LOW. NOT ANTICIPATING ANY SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT BUT A
WARM ADVECTION RAIN EVENT COULD EVOLVE OVERNIGHT. PWATS APPROACH
2.25 INCHES AND LIGHTER WINDS WOULD SUGGEST CONVECTION TO INCREASE
OVER THE WARM GULF AND MOVE WESTWARD ALONG THE COAST AFTER MIDNIGHT.
THE LAST FEW NIGHTS ISOLATED CONVECTION CLUSTERS HAVE PRODUCED VERY
HEAVY RAINFALL AMOUNTS OVER THE OPEN GULF. DO NOT SEE ANY REASON WHY
THIS SHOULD NOT OCCUR AGAIN ESPECIALLY WITH THE SHEAR WEAKENING.
LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN WILL BE MENTIONED WITH AMOUNTS OVER THE NEXT
12-24 HOURS /THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/ RANGING FROM 1/2 TO 2 INCHES
WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS OF 3 TO 5 INCHES. AT THIS TIME WILL
PLACE THE HIGHER RAIN AMOUNTS AND HIGHER POPS ACROSS THE COASTAL
COUNTIES. MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT INCREASING POPS OVERNIGHT
WITH NAM THE MOST AGGRESSIVE WITH RAINFALL AMOUNTS AND PWAT VALUES.
AS WE MOVE INTO THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT SURFACE LOW MOVES INLAND
AND UPPER DIVERGENT FLOW INCREASES ALONG AND EAST OF THE SHEAR LINE
MOVING ALONG THE TEXAS COAST. AT THE SURFACE LOW LEVEL WINDS TURN
MORE SOUTHEAST SURGING ADDITIONAL MOISTURE INTO THE REGION. MODELS
ARE PUSHING PWATS BETWEEN 2.5 AND 3 INCHES BY 00Z FRIDAY. RAIN
CHANCES GO UP ANOTHER NOTCH WITH LIKELY POPS ALONG AND EAST OF
HIGHWAY 281/69C. HEAVY RAIN IS LIKELY AND AS MENTIONED ABOVE SOME
AREAS MAY SEE SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL WHERE THE SHOWERS AND STORMS
TRAIN OVER THE SAME LOCATIONS. UPPER FLOW WILL BE LIGHT SO STORMS
WILL BE SLOW MOVING AS WELL. DO NOT ANTICIPATE A FLASH FLOOD WATCH
WITH THE GROUND VERY PARCHED AND WILL BE CAPABLE OF RECEIVING A LOT
OF WATER. FLASH FLOOD GUIDANCE FOR ONE HOUR RANGES FROM 3.5 TO 5.7
INCHES...4 TO 6 INCHES FOR 3 HOURS AND 5 TO 7.5 INCHES FOR 6 HOURS.
TEMPERATURES ON THURSDAY WILL BE SLIGHTLY LOWER BUT COULD BE EVEN
LOWER THEN FORECAST IF RAIN AND CLOUDS DO NOT ABATE MUCH DURING THE
DAY. IN ANY CASE, A REPRIEVE OF 95-105 INTO THE 88-94 DEGREE RANGE
WILL BE NICE.
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BROWNSVILLE TX
309 PM CDT WED AUG 27 2014
.SHORT TERM.../NOW THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/...SURFACE LOW IS LOCATED
ABOUT 150 MILES ENE OF BROWNSVILLE AS OF 2 PM TODAY. SCATTERED
CONVECTION CONTINUES TO DEVELOP AROUND THE LOW WITH ISOLATED SHOWERS
ACROSS THE COASTAL COUNTIES ALONG THE QUASI-STATIONARY SEA BREEZE.
THE LOW CONTINUES TO TRACK WSW AROUND THE PERIPHERY OF THE MID TO
UPPER RIDGE OVER SOUTHERN STATES. THIS WILL DIRECT THE LOW TOWARDS
THE LOWER TX COAST TONIGHT AND OVER THE RGV THURSDAY.
FOR TONIGHT...MODELS SUGGEST THE UPPER LEVEL WINDS TO WEAKEN WHICH
COULD RESULT IN DEEP CONVECTION INCREASING AROUND THE CENTER OF THE
LOW. NOT ANTICIPATING ANY SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT BUT A
WARM ADVECTION RAIN EVENT COULD EVOLVE OVERNIGHT. PWATS APPROACH
2.25 INCHES AND LIGHTER WINDS WOULD SUGGEST CONVECTION TO INCREASE
OVER THE WARM GULF AND MOVE WESTWARD ALONG THE COAST AFTER MIDNIGHT.
THE LAST FEW NIGHTS ISOLATED CONVECTION CLUSTERS HAVE PRODUCED VERY
HEAVY RAINFALL AMOUNTS OVER THE OPEN GULF. DO NOT SEE ANY REASON WHY
THIS SHOULD NOT OCCUR AGAIN ESPECIALLY WITH THE SHEAR WEAKENING.
LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN WILL BE MENTIONED WITH AMOUNTS OVER THE NEXT
12-24 HOURS /THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/ RANGING FROM 1/2 TO 2 INCHES
WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS OF 3 TO 5 INCHES. AT THIS TIME WILL
PLACE THE HIGHER RAIN AMOUNTS AND HIGHER POPS ACROSS THE COASTAL
COUNTIES. MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT INCREASING POPS OVERNIGHT
WITH NAM THE MOST AGGRESSIVE WITH RAINFALL AMOUNTS AND PWAT VALUES.
AS WE MOVE INTO THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT SURFACE LOW MOVES INLAND
AND UPPER DIVERGENT FLOW INCREASES ALONG AND EAST OF THE SHEAR LINE
MOVING ALONG THE TEXAS COAST. AT THE SURFACE LOW LEVEL WINDS TURN
MORE SOUTHEAST SURGING ADDITIONAL MOISTURE INTO THE REGION. MODELS
ARE PUSHING PWATS BETWEEN 2.5 AND 3 INCHES BY 00Z FRIDAY. RAIN
CHANCES GO UP ANOTHER NOTCH WITH LIKELY POPS ALONG AND EAST OF
HIGHWAY 281/69C. HEAVY RAIN IS LIKELY AND AS MENTIONED ABOVE SOME
AREAS MAY SEE SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL WHERE THE SHOWERS AND STORMS
TRAIN OVER THE SAME LOCATIONS. UPPER FLOW WILL BE LIGHT SO STORMS
WILL BE SLOW MOVING AS WELL. DO NOT ANTICIPATE A FLASH FLOOD WATCH
WITH THE GROUND VERY PARCHED AND WILL BE CAPABLE OF RECEIVING A LOT
OF WATER. FLASH FLOOD GUIDANCE FOR ONE HOUR RANGES FROM 3.5 TO 5.7
INCHES...4 TO 6 INCHES FOR 3 HOURS AND 5 TO 7.5 INCHES FOR 6 HOURS.
TEMPERATURES ON THURSDAY WILL BE SLIGHTLY LOWER BUT COULD BE EVEN
LOWER THEN FORECAST IF RAIN AND CLOUDS DO NOT ABATE MUCH DURING THE
DAY. IN ANY CASE, A REPRIEVE OF 95-105 INTO THE 88-94 DEGREE RANGE
WILL BE NICE.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion
98L looks way worse than it did this morning. Without any convection, the circulation has weakened today. Looks like the dry air and shear won!
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ronyan wrote:There's a pretty decent band over Brazoria county now. I just drove to the bank in Lake Jackson and the rain rate was probably 2+ inches an hour. I've had 0.25" on the gauge here, most within the last 15 minutes.
Interesting...not a drop here....but the wind has increased a little here at the house
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Better to be safe then sorry I guess 

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion
underthwx wrote:ronyan wrote:There's a pretty decent band over Brazoria county now. I just drove to the bank in Lake Jackson and the rain rate was probably 2+ inches an hour. I've had 0.25" on the gauge here, most within the last 15 minutes.
Interesting...not a drop here....but the wind has increased a little here at the house
Yea I would guess it was the close proximity to land that had them do it. As well as perhaps they need to ensure they meet their budget to be appropriated similar funds in the future and a good training exercise to boot.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion
At least the dry air isn't Texas's fault this time.


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