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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1621 Postby SouthernMet » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:18 pm

exactly...
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#1622 Postby gatorcane » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:32 pm

Seems that the global models keep pushing back the REAL SIGNIFICANT cold for Texas (except the Panhandle and extreme Western areas). Now I see it coming in the week of Jan 5th. There looks to be some cold for later this week but nothing like what the models were showing last week.
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#1623 Postby ronyan » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:34 pm

gatorcane wrote:Seems that the global models keep pushing back the REAL cold for Texas. Now I see it coming in the week of Jan 5th. There looks to be some cold for later this week but nothing like what the models were showing last week.

Getting cold into TX is easy if 1050+ mb high comes into Montana. I'm still very skeptical of the relatively warm model runs this week for the state. Take a look at the Nothern Hemisphere view of the GFS (which is top-down centered on the north pole), some very cold air is starting to flow from the pole into Canada and this should continue through the first week of Jan.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1624 Postby stormlover2013 » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:34 pm

models have a hard time with this type of cold, look at today it was supposed to get to 49 degrees where I live and its not even getting up to 45 degrees today and this cold air this week will prob be about 10 degrees colder than what is forecasted
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#1625 Postby TheProfessor » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:50 pm

This set up could end up being very bad, The latest model runs are showing a quite of bit of QPF for North and East Texas, if the models do underestimate the cold and we get ice or snow on the ground on New Years it could prevent moderation on Friday, which could cause a very serious deal this weekend especially with people leaving from visiting family and The Cowboys Game and also the people coming down for the College Playoffs.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1626 Postby BigB0882 » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:53 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Posted this in the deep south thread. Since it affects you guys first thought I should share the wealth. The gfs saves winter :roflmao:

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Do you think the southeast ridge is going to budge enough for the cold to make it our way in SELA or is this just a fantasy run?
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1627 Postby vbhoutex » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:09 pm

37F and steady rain at our place in W. Houston. Wonderful Winter weather if you like a COLD RAIN!! :cold: :roll:
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1628 Postby SouthernMet » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:30 pm

After seeing the 15z SREF, everyone in the DFW area needs to stay tuned for possible icing new years eve night... Bares watching imo
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1629 Postby Shoshana » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:52 pm

Wntrwthrguy wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:
Shoshana wrote:No sleet observed here in N Austin near P'ville. Just cold drizzle and 36F. Got a weather station, waiting for it to stop raining before I go put it up.... hopefully tomorrow.

Got mine up a couple days ago and I am loving it.


I've been thinking about getting a weather station for a while. Any advice on which one to get?


No advice - this is my first one. I got it as a gift. It's from Costco and it's an 'all in one'. It seems nice. I'm going to install it on a fencepost out in the yard. Nice thing is that it's wireless. Hopefully will be more reliable than the Atomic Clock temp thing we have, it's decided it will tell us the outside temps whenever it feels up to it...
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1630 Postby ronyan » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:04 pm

Wntrwthrguy wrote:
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Shoshana wrote:No sleet observed here in N Austin near P'ville. Just cold drizzle and 36F. Got a weather station, waiting for it to stop raining before I go put it up.... hopefully tomorrow.

Got mine up a couple days ago and I am loving it.


I've been thinking about getting a weather station for a while. Any advice on which one to get?


If you're on a lower budget I'd recommend the Ambient Weather WS-1400-IP Observer. It's an all-in-one wireless unit with rain gauge, wind, pressure, humidity, solar radiation sensor, uv index. For about $150 you can get that and link it to wunderground.com. It's got a receiver box that plugs in straight to the router port via ethernet and has it's own IP on your local network. I had it setup and reporting to wunderground in about 30 minutes, very easy overall and all of the measurements can be calibrated with offset values.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1631 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:06 pm

ronyan wrote:Remember 850mb is not the surface (~5000ft), and fronts tend to be colder at the surface level.


I understand the cold air is denser and it stays near the surface but even the 925 MB level doesnt go below 4C according to the GFS. I think it will be much colder than that
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1632 Postby orangeblood » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:07 pm

SouthernMet wrote:After seeing the 15z SREF, everyone in the DFW area needs to stay tuned for possible icing new years eve night... Bares watching imo


No doubt about it, some of the SREF members have temps in the mid to lower 20's with between 0.1-0.25 inch QPF....that would cause major problems across the DFW metroplex
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#1633 Postby KatDaddy » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:09 pm

Sunny skies, 47F, 37% humidity, 22F dewpoint, and very light winds. Amazing how nice 47F feels in the sun. Awaiting the TX AFDs to see if anything has changed.
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#1634 Postby Wntrwthrguy » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:11 pm

Can anyone tell me what the latest models are showing for the Austin area around New Years?
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#1635 Postby ronyan » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:17 pm

Wntrwthrguy wrote:Can anyone tell me what the latest models are showing for the Austin area around New Years?


The 12z GFS shows highs of mid to upper 30s on New Year's Day for Austin. Very little precip indicated until the 2nd.
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#1636 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:34 pm

Only made it up to 42 this afternoon with temps back into the upper 30s now with a few more showers headed this way. The SREF seems to be good about picking up on these type events that the other models do not see at this range. It makes sense to me for us to get some impulses embedded in the SW flow ahead of the main trough that looks to arrive late in the week. These initial impulses have the best shot at giving us frozen precip and NYE night is one of the worst possible times for it with so many people out late.
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#1637 Postby Portastorm » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:41 pm

ronyan wrote:
Wntrwthrguy wrote:Can anyone tell me what the latest models are showing for the Austin area around New Years?


The 12z GFS shows highs of mid to upper 30s on New Year's Day for Austin. Very little precip indicated until the 2nd.


Interesting to note that the 15z SREF shows freezing rain/drizzle in the AUS area New Years Eve morning. Only model I know of at this point which suggests this.
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#1638 Postby ndale » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:55 pm

The WPC Probabilistic Winter Precipitation Guidance is now showing possibility of freezing rain for central TX starting Wed and by Thur it covers a large portion of Tx.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1639 Postby ronyan » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:59 pm

The 18z NAM has a 1066mb high in Montana in 45 hrs. Not sure of the NAM's skill at forecasting highs but that would be incredible. Other models are a bit "weaker" with the high around 1059-1060mb.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1640 Postby stormlover2013 » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:05 pm

What is the gfs showing?
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