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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#2521 Postby Rgv20 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:07 pm

Portastorm wrote:18z GFS rolling in now ... not that I'm a big fan of any 18z model run, but this one looks a bit colder than the 12z run and has frozen precip deeper into south central/south Texas by 12z Saturday.


It does show a nice surprise just SE of Eagle Pass on Thursday Morning! :lol: It has mid 30s with light Rain for my area during the same time frame.. :cold:
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#2522 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:09 pm

Tammie wrote:What the heck is a "MESOSCALE SNOW BAND" in laymans terms please?


Meso means small or localized. Think of it as when we see severe weather events and even in winter weather events, the Storm Prediction Center or the WPC (Weather Prediction Center) will issue a Mesoscale Discussion. It is for a geographically specific area.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#2523 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:12 pm

The plot thickens ... NWSFO EWX now appears concerned. Relevant snippet from its just issued AFD:

AN IMPACT CONCERN IN THE LONG TERM WILL CENTER ON THE POTENTIAL FOR
ANOTHER FREEZING RAIN EVENT FOR THE PORTIONS OF THE HILL COUNTRY
AND POSSIBLY THE I-35 CORRIDOR FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH MID-MORNING
SATURDAY. GLOBAL MODELS HAVE SOME DISAGREEMENTS ON OVERALL
PRECIPITATION PLACEMENT BUT DO AGREE THAT SURFACE TEMPERATURES
WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF FREEZING RAIN IF ENOUGH MOISTURE AND LIFT
COINCIDE. CONTINUED SPLIT H5 FLOW PATTERN WILL ALLOW FOR A
REINFORCING LOW-LEVEL COLD AIR INTRUSION FRIDAY FROM A STRONG
LONG WAVE TROUGH OVER THE GREAT LAKES WHILE LINGERING ENERGY
REMAINS OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA. OF NOTE...IS THAT RAW MODEL
OUTPUT AND MEX/EC MOS HAVE TRENDED COLDER OVER THE PAST FEW
RUNS...PLACING THE FREEZING LINE FARTHER SOUTH AND EAST OF THE
PREVIOUS NEW YEARS DAY EVENT. IT APPEARS THAT A GOOD PORTION OF
THE I-35 CORRIDOR WILL BE AT OR BELOW FREEZING...INCLUDING METRO
AUSTIN.

CONFIDENCE IS MEDIUM THAT COLD ENOUGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN
PLACE TO SUPPORT FREEZING RAIN BUT LOW CONFIDENCE REMAINS IN
OVERALL PRECIPITATION PLACEMENT AND AMOUNTS. THE GFS BRINGS A
BETTER CONSOLIDATED SHORTWAVE AND A GOOD MID TO UPPER LEVEL
DIVERGENT SIGNAL THAT SUPPORTS HIGHER PRECIPITATION RATES. THE EC
HOLDS ONTO MUCH OF THE ENERGY BACK ACROSS MEXICO WHICH IT HAS A
TENDENCY TO DO. BOTH GFS/EC HAVE TRENDED COLDER WITH THE EC
TRENDING WETTER FARTHER NORTH. THE CANADIAN SIDES MORE TOWARDS THE
EC BUT DOES SHOW LIGHT PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS FROM A COUPLE
HUNDREDTHS TO NEAR ONE TENTH FARTHER SOUTH. THIS IMPACT TIME
FRAME HAS BEEN INTRODUCED INTO THE HWO TO BE MONITORED FOR FURTHER
UPDATES. THE GFS WOULD BE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO AT THIS POINT
WITH EC/GEM EQUATING TO LOWER OVERALL AMOUNTS. YET...DEPENDING ON
WHERE THE INGREDIENTS COME TOGETHER...ESPECIALLY IF OVER A METRO
AREA...IMPACTS COULD STILL BE POSSIBLE. IT IS ENCOURAGED TO STAY
UP WITH THE LATEST CONCERNING THIS TIME FRAME.
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#2524 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:12 pm

Watch it be right over DFW airport and points 25 miles north and south. Because I have to be there on Friday. #Murphy'sLaw
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#2525 Postby gpsnowman » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:14 pm

Have a trip planned for San Marcos leaving Friday afternoon coming back Sunday after the Cowboy game. Having second thoughts.......I-35 is awful enough on a sunny day. Imagine that highway frozen with ice and snow. No thanks. Still have a couple of days to think about it. Sure would hate to miss a snowstorm here. :(
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#2526 Postby weatherdude1108 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:18 pm

Portastorm wrote:The plot thickens ... NWSFO EWX now appears concerned. Relevant snippet from its just issued AFD:

AN IMPACT CONCERN IN THE LONG TERM WILL CENTER ON THE POTENTIAL FOR
ANOTHER FREEZING RAIN EVENT FOR THE PORTIONS OF THE HILL COUNTRY
AND POSSIBLY THE I-35 CORRIDOR FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH MID-MORNING
SATURDAY. GLOBAL MODELS HAVE SOME DISAGREEMENTS ON OVERALL
PRECIPITATION PLACEMENT BUT DO AGREE THAT SURFACE TEMPERATURES
WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF FREEZING RAIN IF ENOUGH MOISTURE AND LIFT
COINCIDE. CONTINUED SPLIT H5 FLOW PATTERN WILL ALLOW FOR A
REINFORCING LOW-LEVEL COLD AIR INTRUSION FRIDAY FROM A STRONG
LONG WAVE TROUGH OVER THE GREAT LAKES WHILE LINGERING ENERGY
REMAINS OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA. OF NOTE...IS THAT RAW MODEL
OUTPUT AND MEX/EC MOS HAVE TRENDED COLDER OVER THE PAST FEW
RUNS...PLACING THE FREEZING LINE FARTHER SOUTH AND EAST OF THE
PREVIOUS NEW YEARS DAY EVENT. IT APPEARS THAT A GOOD PORTION OF
THE I-35 CORRIDOR WILL BE AT OR BELOW FREEZING...INCLUDING METRO
AUSTIN.

CONFIDENCE IS MEDIUM THAT COLD ENOUGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN
PLACE TO SUPPORT FREEZING RAIN BUT LOW CONFIDENCE REMAINS IN
OVERALL PRECIPITATION PLACEMENT AND AMOUNTS. THE GFS BRINGS A
BETTER CONSOLIDATED SHORTWAVE AND A GOOD MID TO UPPER LEVEL
DIVERGENT SIGNAL THAT SUPPORTS HIGHER PRECIPITATION RATES. THE EC
HOLDS ONTO MUCH OF THE ENERGY BACK ACROSS MEXICO WHICH IT HAS A
TENDENCY TO DO. BOTH GFS/EC HAVE TRENDED COLDER WITH THE EC
TRENDING WETTER FARTHER NORTH. THE CANADIAN SIDES MORE TOWARDS THE
EC BUT DOES SHOW LIGHT PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS FROM A COUPLE
HUNDREDTHS TO NEAR ONE TENTH FARTHER SOUTH. THIS IMPACT TIME
FRAME HAS BEEN INTRODUCED INTO THE HWO TO BE MONITORED FOR FURTHER
UPDATES. THE GFS WOULD BE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO AT THIS POINT
WITH EC/GEM EQUATING TO LOWER OVERALL AMOUNTS. YET...DEPENDING ON
WHERE THE INGREDIENTS COME TOGETHER...ESPECIALLY IF OVER A METRO
AREA...IMPACTS COULD STILL BE POSSIBLE. IT IS ENCOURAGED TO STAY
UP WITH THE LATEST CONCERNING THIS TIME FRAME.


I was just about to post that. You beat me to the punch! :wink: I noticed the "...PLACING THE FREEZING LINE FARTHER SOUTH AND EAST OF THE PREVIOUS NEW YEARS DAY EVENT" blurb.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#2527 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:20 pm

:uarrow:

Well, it's what we have been saying here today, right? I think many of us believe this airmass will be colder than the last one ... at least for the I-35 corridor and areas east/southeast. The big key will be what does the Baja low do and does a coastal low develop. Two big questions which will have big impacts on the sensible weather as srainhoutx says. :wink:
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#2528 Postby gboudx » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:24 pm

Lagreeneyes03 wrote:Watch it be right over DFW airport and points 25 miles north and south. Because I have to be there on Friday. #Murphy'sLaw


You can bet it will be happen almost directly over Jerry World in Arlington with the College Football National Championship game on Monday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#2529 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:35 pm

I'll be in San Antonio Friday thru Sunday at Hyatt Hill Country Resort.. Wonder if I can play golf in the sleet?
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#2530 Postby Brent » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:41 pm

gboudx wrote:
Lagreeneyes03 wrote:Watch it be right over DFW airport and points 25 miles north and south. Because I have to be there on Friday. #Murphy'sLaw


You can bet it will be happen almost directly over Jerry World in Arlington with the College Football National Championship game on Monday.


Yes I've had that date highlighted on the calendar for weeks now and now we have a storm. :lol:
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#2531 Postby Rgv20 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:42 pm

NWS Brownsville afternoon discussion..

LOW TEMPERATURES WEDNESDAY NIGHT WILL BE RANGING FROM
THE UPPER TO MID 30S ALONG THE INTERNATIONAL TX BORDER AND LOW 30S
TOWARDS THE NORTHERN COUNTIES. DUE TO THE WINDS INCREASING AND LOW
TEMPS...WIND CHILL ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED IN THE NEXT FORECAST
PACKAGE AS THE "FEEL LIKE" TEMPS DROP TO THE MID 20S OVER THE
NORTHERN COUNTIES AND THE LOW 30S ALONG THE RIVER. CONFIDENCE
IS HIGH FOR THIS COLD TEMPS TO REALIZED.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#2532 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:43 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:I'll be in San Antonio Friday thru Sunday at Hyatt Hill Country Resort.. Wonder if I can play golf in the sleet?


Well if all else fails maybe they'll let you slosh in the lazy river like it's a slush puppie.. :lol:
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#2533 Postby ndale » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:47 pm

EWX now has freezing rain in my forecast for Friday night and Sat.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#2534 Postby Brent » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:55 pm

For the laugh for the day:

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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#2535 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:58 pm

:uarrow:

What's so funny, I drew that map?! :x

:lol:
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#2536 Postby gpsnowman » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:00 pm

:uarrow:
If that map verified I-35 would look like war zone!

Orangeblood mentioned yesterday to look out for something in the long range. Maybe this is it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#2537 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:05 pm

Lagreeneyes03 wrote:
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:I'll be in San Antonio Friday thru Sunday at Hyatt Hill Country Resort.. Wonder if I can play golf in the sleet?


Well if all else fails maybe they'll let you slosh in the lazy river like it's a slush puppie.. :lol:


I suggested that to my wife... I would do it. I'm going to Bettles, Alaska next month to go dog sledding in the Arctic Circle.
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#2538 Postby BigB0882 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:06 pm

Is that snow from this weekend system or something long range, though? It appears to be valid from 84 to 192 hours. That covers this weekend. It may not have anything to do with a long range storm.
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#2539 Postby gpsnowman » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:09 pm

BigB0882 wrote:Is that snow from this weekend system or something long range, though? It appears to be valid from 84 to 192 hours. That covers this weekend. It may not have anything to do with a long range storm.

I was looking at the date on the end. Maybe I read it wrong. :oops:
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#2540 Postby aggiecutter » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:23 pm

From the Sheveport AFD:

BUT BELOW FREEZING TEMPERATURES DURING THE NIGHTTIME HRS
SATURDAY NIGHT/SUNDAY MORNING MAY LEAD TO A WINTRY MIX NORTH OF
THE I-20 CORRIDOR.
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