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#6901 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:57 pm

I am closing in on 2 inches east side of the big airport
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#6902 Postby TheProfessor » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:58 pm

Radar just Blew up over Denton County, Snow is falling even heavier now.
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#6903 Postby orangeblood » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:02 pm

dhweather wrote:
orangeblood wrote:NWS did not get the word out effectively to TXDOT or the school districts leading up to this event, somebody dropped the ball....appears the advisory criteria wasn't effective enough, warnings should've been warranted, IMO! These roads are some of the worst I've seen around here, comparable to Dec 2013.


I think most were gunshy after the realtively non-event earlier in the week. Impacts were so very highly dependent on the track of the ULL, we went from 10PM newscasts of "whiteout conditions, 6 inches" to a dusting at best.

TXDOT was warned of it coming, but there's only so much they can do until precip starts accumulating.

As far as the ISD's - early release is a big problem for a lot of people. This will be a problem either way, regardless.


That is probably the biggest mistake you can make as a meterologist, being gun shy...you learn from your mistakes but don't let it effect your next forecast (RGEM has been the go to model so it's not like the tools weren't available). Regarding advisories vs warnings, they need to be re-examined
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#6904 Postby orangeblood » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:07 pm

Brent wrote:https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/11004568_10153090754320930_760365594595651075_o.jpg


:uarrow: Sorry but that is not advisory criteria!!
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#6905 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:08 pm

Man those folks at the mix master in fort worth I hope they have supplies ready inside their cars because they are not going anywhere anytime soon.
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#6906 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:10 pm

orangeblood wrote: :uarrow: Sorry but that is not advisory criteria!!


They need to start considering temperatures into these criteria's. 2 inches at 25F is just as bad if not worse on the roads as 6 inches in 32F
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#6907 Postby orangeblood » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:14 pm

Ntxw wrote:
orangeblood wrote: :uarrow: Sorry but that is not advisory criteria!!


They need to start considering temperatures into these criteria's. 2 inches at 25F is just as bad if not worse on the roads as 6 inches in 32F


Yep, it shouldn't just be based on amounts...need to being more factors in and weigh them together. General Public doesn't take advisories as serious as they should...just look at what school districts thought about them this morning
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#6908 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:15 pm

Officially 2 inches at DFW Airport

Old record on this date 0.5 inches in 1934 <-Bastardi's been harping at this year for Feb
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#6909 Postby aggiecutter » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:16 pm

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aggiecutter wrote:Reed Timmer ‏@reedtimmerTVN 1h1 hour ago
Treacherous road conditions with moderate #snow in SW Austin area. LIVE video from Dominator feed at http://tvnweather.com/live


It would be a shame to ban you ... what after that nice snowfall you had earlier this week and stuff ... :wink:


All I have to say is this:

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#6910 Postby iorange55 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:17 pm

Some video I got earlier today...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b12E-0pc7N0[/youtube]
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#6911 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:21 pm

aggiecutter wrote:
Portastorm wrote:
aggiecutter wrote:Reed Timmer ‏@reedtimmerTVN 1h1 hour ago
Treacherous road conditions with moderate #snow in SW Austin area. LIVE video from Dominator feed at http://tvnweather.com/live


It would be a shame to ban you ... what after that nice snowfall you had earlier this week and stuff ... :wink:


All I have to say is this:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj79/Photo44_album/Texarkana%20Snow%202-24-15%20047_zpsiirzhgcp.jpg


What is this, a Texas Winter 2014-15 cyber-snowball fight?!? :D
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#6912 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:21 pm

Probably 1.5 inches here in Denison. But the street in front of my house continues to be mostly wet. That's surprises me a little bit.
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#6913 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:25 pm

And then there's this about driving conditions not far away. Photo on a friend's Facebook page. Taken on Hwy. 75 near Anna. Meanwhile, another friend says that Hwy. 75 near TMC hospital is starting to get difficult for trucks and such to get up the hill.

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#6914 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:26 pm

Texas Snowman wrote:Probably 1.5 inches here in Denison. But the street in front of my house continues to be mostly wet. That's surprises me a little bit.


Didn't we hear some mentioning that Wednesday was the last chance for snow this winter? :D
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#6915 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:27 pm

:uarrow: I don't know about you, but I heard winter was over a month ago! :D
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#6916 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:29 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Texas Snowman wrote:Probably 1.5 inches here in Denison. But the street in front of my house continues to be mostly wet. That's surprises me a little bit.


Didn't we hear some mentioning that Wednesday was the last chance for snow this winter? :D


Heck, as it turned out, it wasn't even the last chance of snow this week!
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#6917 Postby Portastorm » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:30 pm

So I'm seeing a lot of debate here about whether or not the NWSFO Fort Worth should have issued a Winter Storm Warning instead of a Winter Weather Advisory. It's probably time to review the actual definitions which go beyond simple amounts of precip. Furthermore, forecasters do have discretion to "think outside the box" in these situations. Seems to me that the WWA was probably right but it sounds awfully close up there to WSW criteria. Maybe on the cusp. Here are the definitions per the NWS Southern Region HQ:

Winter Storm Warnings are issued when hazardous winter weather is occurring, imminent, or highly likely over part or all of the County Warning Forecast Area. Winter Storm Warnings are usually issued in the period of 12 to 24 hours before the storm starts, and occasionally beyond that as much as 36 hours before the storm moves into the region. WSWs can be issued for blizzard conditions, heavy snow (3+ inches in 12 hrs or 4+ inches in 24 hrs), 1/4" or more of ice, one half inch more of sleet, or 2+ inches of a wintry mix.

"Note: Forecasters may consider the impacts of winter weather to the region and do have discretion to issues watches and warning for severe impacts to travel, commerce, or hazard to life and property even if not reaching the numerical criteria."

So if the event doesn't meet this category, it ends up being a WWA.
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#6918 Postby WeatherNewbie » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:30 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Texas Snowman wrote:Probably 1.5 inches here in Denison. But the street in front of my house continues to be mostly wet. That's surprises me a little bit.


Didn't we hear some mentioning that Wednesday was the last chance for snow this winter? :D


I swore I read a couple of weeks ago there was nothing left for DFW in February but a couple minor freezes. :wink:
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#6919 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:30 pm

Yup, the winter of 2014-15 will always be remembered by yours truly as the Bookend Winter. Big start, not so much in the middle and a flourish at the end.
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#6920 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:31 pm

Portastorm wrote:
aggiecutter wrote:Reed Timmer ‏@reedtimmerTVN 1h1 hour ago
Treacherous road conditions with moderate #snow in SW Austin area. LIVE video from Dominator feed at http://tvnweather.com/live


It would be a shame to ban you ... what after that nice snowfall you had earlier this week and stuff ... :wink:


When I first saw that, I almost glanced at radar and busted out of my office chair to take a look thinking, "Did a snowband explode over Austin all of a sudden??" :eek: :double: Then I thought it may be a joke. Haha. :P
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