END ALL HURRICANES-CBS-ORBITAL SUNSHADE

[john186292]

Enough of these orbital sunshades can cool the oceans to the usual temps of May, when there are very few, and very weak hurricanes.

///One year from funding to up there and cooling the planet. Aren't you sick of these hurricanes? Bug all of your elected officials and candidates to allocate to NASA funds to get these sunshades up.

///Also would end global warming..decrease insect diseases like West Nile, malaria..increase the GDP of the hot countries..and just end the misery of hot weather. Also would weaken any remaining tornadoes. Would provide more jobs for NASA. Tremendous saving overall, with lower a/c bills and less blackouts (less strain on the rickety grid). End the g. warming threat to food crops.

...But mainly, END HURRICANES!! Got that? Now go bug your officials and candidates. LOL. I think http://www.moveon.org site has an interior page to easily send a message to congresspeople. If not, try capwiz. Or Google around for Senate and House email sites. Let's all get busy and actually PREVENT all future hurricanes!

The yankee attitude is - it WILL work if we just twiddle this or that. The dark ages attitude is - "it can't be done because ummmm, well x, ..or y...or z, or h, or i, or j, or k, and so forth. Better not to tamper with Nature..let another 10,000 die in Hounduras from a hurricane."

They said we couldn't eradicate smallpox, or decode three billion DNA basepairs...but we CAN do great things like this!

Think outside the box! Get busy, gang!
John New Orleans
=John186292
Here's the link

CBS News | Cooling The Planet | January 15, 2001
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/01/ ... 4362.shtml

[Stormsfury]

This was from CBS NEWS???

Too much DYN-O-CRAP in the papers.

Seriously, messing with Mother Nature isn't wise. Mother Nature should be left alone, period. End of story.

SF

[opera ghost]

Just great. While we're at it, lets seed the clouds with silver Iodine and dyno-gel (or whatever the heck it's called) and make it perfect spring weather year round..... not

How about educating the public, implimenting stronger codes for shoreline dwellings, and beating everyone who lives on the coast over the head with a large metal bat untill they understand that they have CHOSEN to live in the potential path of Mother Nature's worst rainstorms?

Which is NOT to say that they deserve harm- just that no one should feel cheated that thier ocean front property is ocassioanlly reclaimed by the ocean. It's nature. If we screw with that- who knows what the consequences would be.

[alicia-w]

there's so much meddling around as it is. cloning, and now messing with the weather. Didnt anyone watch the Avengers. Look what happens when you make Sean Connery a bad guy!!!

[john186292]

Every time you take a pill, you mess with the course of Nature. If you live in a house, you have messed with the natural environ humans evolved in. Nature ordains that we live outdoors, with no medicines, and live "nasty, short and brutish lives." Was the eradication of smallpox bad? It sure was messing with Nature! So are rat-traps...and mosquito spray. And pain shots during childbirth. Or pain shots at anytime, for anyone. What do you folks offer to those in chronic pain? What will you do if your five year old kid is in a car wreck and then in chronic pain? No pain shots, no treatment of any kind?
Best Regards
john

[opera ghost]

Many many of those are risks on the personal level. I accept the consequences of the medications I take, and they were well researched before they ever went into my mouth.

I don't walk down to the local forest and consume mushrooms just because someone I met on a chat board said they were safe *laughs*

Untill masses of research and far reaching consequences of this have been studied, analyzed,a dn declared benign- I'm not going to push for it. I've been waiting 10 years to have lasik eye surgery because I want to knwo some longerterm results than are currently available... this is the same thing.

[john186292]

Keep in mind that the earth has been much cooler at times, and life goes on. The sunshade would not do more that create a result similar to a PARTLY cloudy day.(" a tiny pockmark on the face of the sun" {I may have missed a word in my paraphrase}).
///////We live through PARTLY cloudy days quite well. A pockmark on the sun, and temps like May will not do much to the wheat crop. Especially winter wheat.
/// We will not live through global warming very well. Or hurricanes.

[Stormsfury]

John, do we really know if that would work in the first place. No. Trying to control the weather, IMHO, would have a catastrophic effect on Earth and would end up making things worse on a grand scale....like worldwide.

SF

[opera ghost]

It's called an Ice Age John... and, just between you and I, I'm not looking forward to another one Especially in my lifetime.

Hurricanes have been around at least as long as Humans have been- we've lived quite happily through them. In recent centuries we've gone from safe ports to unstable ones as the rise of power has shifted from Europe (which is a somewhat calm place to live all things considered- no hurricanes.major fault lines) and spread globally into more and more unstable places.

The west coast is a hot pit for faults, the plains are an alley for tonados and blizzards, the east coast is beset by monster storms... it's no wonder that the native americans didn't develop cities on the coasts! North America is a Hostile enviroment!

We'll live through whaever mother nature gives us- or we won't. If you don't like hurricanes- move to Europe. Not a single blessed hurricane.

But leave me with my eco system please

[alicia-w]

well at the rate they're ruining the beaches here along the Emerald Coast of FL by building these huge god-awful condos, i'm kinda hoping a decent storm will come through and take some of these developers down a peg or two. remind them about the forces of nature and why you should not build a 30 story tower right there.............

[john186292]

The month of May is not an ice age.LOL.(we only need to cool the planet to May's temps to end 99% of hurricanes...do you recall any in May? The archives show some few in every month, but they get weaker and fewer as the months become cooler. Me, I really like the idea of dancing around the Maypole on a sunny day, forever. LOL.Some on the boards call Izzy "beautiful". I belong to the other camp.)
but nice try, operaghost! LOL
ok gang, i am too rushed today to read all of your great replies, but i did see that point by operaghost.
I hope to read all your replies later this week. Mind your manners, avoid flaming, and remain ladies and gentlemen.
Warmest Regards,
Stay positive,
John New Orleans

[Lethemeul]

Nothing in this e-mail is directed towards John, just to those, in general, who believe we should take steps to prevent Hurricanes.

What these people fail to understand is that these storms serve a purpose. They pull heat from the equator and take it to the poles. What does this do? Well, it's makes the planet inhabitable. The idea that mankind should take steps to stop Hurricanes is assanine and suicidal on a global scale, not to mention an epic waste of resources.

I am done now.

[stormraiser]

I would have to agree with Lethemeul (Welcome to the board by the way!!!)

These storms to serve a purpose. If we upset the balance of nature, who knows what will happen.

Yes, hurricanes are dangerous and deadly, but is it worth changing the way the planet works to stop them, when it could have even worse consequences, like droughts, famines and who knows what else?

[john186292]

The "way the planet works" varies a lot. From about 1100 to about 1750, it had a "Little Ice Age"...dates very approximate, as this is not my field.
I agree with you , caution is in order, and so a slow cooldown to the point of no hurricanes is wise. But we should not hesitate to begin cooling. The heatup killed 15,000 in france, and billions more are at risk.
Something is changing the weather right now. It is up to us to bring it back to normal, then make it more HUMANE. More to the liking of capable, kind humans. Not to surrender to the tradition of "things as they are." To "humanize earth", in a manner of speaking. To get active and IMPROVE things, not just sit by and watch global warming destroy humanity and its food crops. This currently fashionable attitude of "don't tamper with Nature," should be seen as a passing fad of recent decades, ...it is not a summit of wisdom. It is just a fad, like many others in the history of science. //////Like doctors wearing blood and pus stained gowns as a sign of status in their field, back two centuries ago, which led to many women dying from disease contamination after childbirth and contact with those gowns.
////// Question current "wisdom" just as you question everything else. Heed Rene Descartes.. who i cant even spell LOL....."question everything..even my own existence." Thus, you will avoid getting caught up in any transient fad....like "don't tamper with Nature."
Live long and Prosper,
John new orleans

[Stormsfury]

Nothing in this e-mail is directed towards John, just to those, in general, who believe we should take steps to prevent Hurricanes.

What these people fail to understand is that these storms serve a purpose. They pull heat from the equator and take it to the poles. What does this do? Well, it's makes the planet inhabitable. The idea that mankind should take steps to stop Hurricanes is assanine and suicidal on a global scale, not to mention an epic waste of resources.

I am done now.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Good post.

SF

[vbhoutex]

Nothing in this e-mail is directed towards John, just to those, in general, who believe we should take steps to prevent Hurricanes.

What these people fail to understand is that these storms serve a purpose. They pull heat from the equator and take it to the poles. What does this do? Well, it's makes the planet inhabitable. The idea that mankind should take steps to stop Hurricanes is assanine and suicidal on a global scale, not to mention an epic waste of resources.

I am done now.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Good post.

SF

AMEN!!!!

[Guest]

Nothing in this e-mail is directed towards John, just to those, in general, who believe we should take steps to prevent Hurricanes.

What these people fail to understand is that these storms serve a purpose. They pull heat from the equator and take it to the poles. What does this do? Well, it's makes the planet inhabitable. The idea that mankind should take steps to stop Hurricanes is assanine and suicidal on a global scale, not to mention an epic waste of resources.

I am done now.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Good post.

SF

AMEN!!!!

I will second that AMEN!!!!!!!!!

[ColdFront77]

Nothing in this e-mail is directed towards John, just to those, in general, who believe we should take steps to prevent Hurricanes.
What these people fail to understand is that these storms serve a purpose. They pull heat from the equator and take it to the poles. What does this do? Well, it's makes the planet inhabitable. The idea that mankind should take steps to stop Hurricanes is assanine and suicidal on a global scale, not to mention an epic waste of resources.
I am done now.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Good post.

AMEN!!!!

I will second that AMEN!!!!!!!!!

...........I will third that AMEN!!

[Aimless]

from "halfbakery.com"

Originally envisioned as a potential weapon during the 1960's as a way to control sunlight and weather over unruly third-world countries, this concept requires huge rolls of Mylar film to be launched into low earth orbit where they are unrolled, stitched together and then moved to an appropriate place and angle so as to either deflect sunlight away from earth or to reflect and concentrate sunlight onto a particular region, (think of three suns)...

Not enough snow in Vail, drought in Kansas, frosty in Daytona at Spring Break, pesky guerillas in Colombia doing dirty deeds under the cover of darkness ??

Tilt the reflectors and voila ! Problem solved.

In additional to the royalties received from resorts, agribusiness and governments we also anticipate significant advertising revenues from Coke, Anheuser-Busch and Rolaids for placing their product logo where everyone can see them whenever they cast a glance skyward...

And you thought billboards were an eyesore.

If not technically feasible at the present it will be soon enough.


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dwezel, Jan 07 2002

[john186292]

As to CokaCola ads, well, you can vote to elect folks who will ban such, just as some areas at some times have banned roadside billboards...and telemarketers. Most all technology can be used for harm if the elected officials want to harm some. Even heart pacemakers were so loosely regulated lately, that those beneficial gadgets brought harm because unwatched merchants changed the expiration dates on used ones. No technology is totally good, if we don't watch closely how it is used. Regulation and re-regulation is the only protection for the little guy. Otherwise billboards and telemarketers and expired pacemakers will be everywhere.
John New Orleans