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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#201 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 5:10 am

The 00z ECMWF.

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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#202 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 6:46 am

Here we go.

An area of low pressure may form early next week several hundred
miles south of the coast of Mexico. Environmental conditions are
expected to be conducive for subsequent slow development of the
system.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent


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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#203 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 9:57 am

cycloneye wrote:The 00z ECMWF.

http://i.imgur.com/HM04uwk.png


Also later brings it into Baja.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#204 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 10:05 am

This future area has the potential to be the first hurricane of the season. (Maybe first major?)
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#205 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 10:08 am

cycloneye wrote:This future area has the potential to be the first hurricane of the season. (Maybe first major?)


Possibly, but the 0z GFS has backed off on this slightly, but also shows another system interacting with it.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#206 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 10:17 am

Bathtube sst's that will help greatly.

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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#207 Postby Ntxw » Sat May 23, 2015 10:23 am

Strong CCKW in the area, it will move a little further east next week. It will take some time but eventually something will take advantage, which will it be? Maybe the cluster of thunderstorms over Central America?

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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#208 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 10:30 am

Ntxw wrote:Strong CCKW in the area, it will move a little further east next week. It will take some time but eventually something will take advantage, which will it be? Maybe the cluster of thunderstorms over Central America?

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If 90E can get its act together which it appears to be doing, we could see 2-3 systems this month.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#209 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 10:30 am

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6z GFS showing either Andres or Blanca, Blanca or Carlos, Carlos or Delores.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#210 Postby Ntxw » Sat May 23, 2015 10:34 am

Yellow Evan wrote:If 90E can get its act together which it appears to be doing, we could see 2-3 systems this month.


Definitely. I'm trying to see which area the ECMWF is trying to develop into a big hurricane. CCKW will be closer to the Mexican coast by midweek so the invests now may get named but not fully take advantage yet. Whatever cluster is off the Mexican coast/gulf of tehuantepec by mid week needs to be monitored closely as the atmosphere is very favorable for that potential system. Kind of like what Marie did last year, but not that extreme due to time of year.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#211 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 10:46 am

Ntxw wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:If 90E can get its act together which it appears to be doing, we could see 2-3 systems this month.


Definitely. I'm trying to see which area the ECMWF is trying to develop into a big hurricane. CCKW will be closer to the Mexican coast by midweek so the invests now may get named but not fully take advantage yet. Whatever cluster is off the Mexican coast/gulf of tehuantepec by mid week needs to be monitored closely as the atmosphere is very favorable for that potential system. Kind of like what Marie did last year, but not that extreme due to time of year.


GFS seems to show 2 system interacting with each other. I believe the 0/20 is what the GFS/ECMWF/CMC/NOGAPS all blow up and take close to the MX coast, and I don't think the other GFS system is on the TWO yet.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#212 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 10:48 am

Yes,0/20 is the model consensus.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#213 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 10:59 am

Maybe it begins from this?

A TROPICAL WAVE WAS ANALYZED ALONG 90W FROM THE EL SALVADOR S TO
NEAR 03N. SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION WAS NEAR THE AXIS IN THE
AREA S OF 06N BETWEEN 88W AND 92W. SCATTERED MODERATE WITH
ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION ALSO TRAILS THE WAVE FROM 05N TO 08N
BETWEEN 81W AND 87W NEAR THE COAST OF WESTERN PANAMA. THIS WAVE
IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE W AROUND 10-15 KT OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#214 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 11:04 am

Appears that even after the 0/20, the GFS has the interacting storm surviving and becoming a solid system.

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ECMWF shows it too

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GFS then shows a system near Central America that it also been shown in the Caribbean at the end of the period.

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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#215 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 11:23 am

cycloneye wrote:Maybe it begins from this?

A TROPICAL WAVE WAS ANALYZED ALONG 90W FROM THE EL SALVADOR S TO
NEAR 03N. SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION WAS NEAR THE AXIS IN THE
AREA S OF 06N BETWEEN 88W AND 92W. SCATTERED MODERATE WITH
ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION ALSO TRAILS THE WAVE FROM 05N TO 08N
BETWEEN 81W AND 87W NEAR THE COAST OF WESTERN PANAMA. THIS WAVE
IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE W AROUND 10-15 KT OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS.


I think so. It looks decent already.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#216 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 11:31 am

12z GFS appears more strong than 06z and there is another one to the southeast.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#217 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 11:36 am

cycloneye wrote:12z GFS appears more strong than 06z and there is another one to the southeast.


Yea, I posted that on the first post of the page.

Last 2 GFS runs bring it onshore as a hurricane. Something like what we saw from Alma/Boris/Cristina 96 from tail end of the last active era may be on board after 90/1E get out of the way.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#218 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 11:39 am

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Up to 192 hours, 973 mbar. Then, a system to its SE (looks diffrent from past runs, hmm).
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#219 Postby Ntxw » Sat May 23, 2015 11:44 am

Yellow Evan wrote:http://i59.tinypic.com/nld2r7.png

Up to 192 hours, 973 mbar. Then, a system to its SE (looks diffrent from past runs, hmm).


I think the system 192-216 hours is legit off MEX. The stuff around it may be CCKW steroids on the model (though I wouldn't be surprised if something does turn out there).
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#220 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 11:57 am

Ntxw wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:http://i59.tinypic.com/nld2r7.png

Up to 192 hours, 973 mbar. Then, a system to its SE (looks diffrent from past runs, hmm).


I think the system 192-216 hours is legit off MEX. The stuff around it may be CCKW steroids on the model (though I wouldn't be surprised if something does turn out there).


You talking about the 0/20 system for the 192-216 hour system or not?

I think the 2nd MX systems shown in the 6z and 0z GFS is legit, as it has lots of model support. Not sure about the 3rd at day 13-16ish. Keep in mind though we also have MJO.
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