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#441 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:36 pm

:uarrow: I'd go out of the limb and say Blanca looks nice.
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#442 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:37 pm

Back to Cat 2:

EP, 02, 2015060600, , BEST, 0, 158N, 1080W, 85, 971, HU
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#443 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:38 pm

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Not too shabby.
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#444 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:40 pm

06/0000 UTC 15.8N 108.1W T5.0/5.0 BLANCA

I'd go 90.

TXPZ27 KNES 060019
TCSENP

A. 02E (BLANCA)

B. 06/0000Z

C. 15.8N

D. 108.1W

E. ONE/GOES-W

F. T5.0/5.0/D0.5/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...SYSTEM LOOKS SLIGHTLY BETTER OVER 24HRS WITH THICKER
BANDING AND COOLER TOPS IN EAST SEMICIRCLE. DT=5.0 FOR OFF WHITE EYE
EMBEDDED IN MEDIUM GRAY WITH RING OF BLACK. MET ON SLOW CURVE IS 5.0
AND PAT=5.0. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: EPAC: BLANCA - Hurricane

#445 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:41 pm

Up to 85kts.

EP, 02, 2015060600, , BEST, 0, 158N, 1080W, 85, 971, HU
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#446 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:45 pm

TAFB came in at T5.5/102kt:

EP, 02, 201506052345, 10, DVTS, CI, , 1580N, 10800W, , 2, 102, 2, 960, 2, DVRK, , , , , , , , , , , , , , E, TAFB, MF, VI, 3, 5555 /////, , , GOES13, CSC, T,

Probably a little on the bullish side. I doubt Blanca has improved that dramatically since recon left. 85-90kt is good.
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#447 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:59 pm

I'd go 95, given that both numbers are .5 of a T higher than Recon.
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#448 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:34 pm

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 8.2.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 06 JUN 2015 Time : 001500 UTC
Lat : 15:53:49 N Lon : 108:13:44 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.6 / 931.0mb/129.6kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.6 7.0 7.0

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR :N/A km

Center Temp : -12.0C Cloud Region Temp : -76.2C

Scene Type : EYE
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#449 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:36 pm

I'd be very conservative and only go 85 kt. Given the structural changes, it likely is nowhere near as intense as satellite suggests. When Recon found 80 kt this afternoon, I believe it was T5.0 and the ADT was close to T6.0?
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#450 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:41 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:I'd be very conservative and only go 85 kt. Given the structural changes, it likely is nowhere near as intense as satellite suggests. When Recon found 80 kt this afternoon, I believe it was T5.0 and the ADT was close to T6.0?


Both agencies had T4.5, and to be fair I believe it was beginning to strengthen as recon left. ADT has been on that dank stuff.
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#451 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:42 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:I'd be very conservative and only go 85 kt. Given the structural changes, it likely is nowhere near as intense as satellite suggests. When Recon found 80 kt this afternoon, I believe it was T5.0 and the ADT was close to T6.0?


It was T4.5 from SAB and T5.0 from TAFB. That supports 80, just like how a T5.0 from SAB and a T5.5 from TAFB supports 95.

We can toss out ADT though, since it doesn't work with lopsided storms.
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#452 Postby Alyono » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:49 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:I'd go 95, given that both numbers are .5 of a T higher than Recon.


Just made an in house Dvorak. I am still going with a 4.5 for this. Not sufficient convection on the entire northern semi-circle to justify a higher rating
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Re: EPAC: BLANCA - Hurricane

#453 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:57 pm

Here is how I would have the BT so far (totally unofficial, in HURDAT2 form):

EP022015, BLANCA, XX,

20150601, 0000, , TD, 12.7N, 103.2W, 30, 1007, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150601, 0600, , TD, 13.2N, 103.6W, 30, 1007, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150601, 1200, , TS, 13.5N, 104.1W, 35, 1005, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150601, 1800, , TS, 13.3N, 103.9W, 45, 1002, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150602, 0000, , TS, 13.3N, 104.2W, 50, 1000, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150602, 0600, , TS, 13.2N, 104.4W, 60, 996, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150602, 1200, , HU, 13.0N, 104.5W, 65, 993, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150602, 1800, , HU, 12.9N, 104.5W, 75, 983, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150603, 0000, , HU, 12.8N, 104.7W, 85, 974, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150603, 0600, , HU, 12.6N, 104.7W, 100, 961, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150603, 1200, , HU, 12.4N, 104.6W, 120, 943, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150603, 1500, I, HU, 12.3N, 104.5W, 125, 940, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150603, 1800, , HU, 12.3N, 104.6W, 120, 942, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150604, 0000, , HU, 12.1N, 104.7W, 105, 951, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150604, 0600, , HU, 11.9N, 104.9W, 90, 963, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150604, 1200, , HU, 12.2N, 104.9W, 80, 974, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150604, 1800, , HU, 12.5N, 105.0W, 70, 982, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150605, 0000, , HU, 13.2N, 105.3W, 70, 981, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150605, 0600, , HU, 13.9N, 105.9W, 75, 979, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150605, 1200, , HU, 14.5N, 106.5W, 80, 976, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150605, 1800, , HU, 15.0N, 107.1W, 80, 975, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
20150605, 0000, , HU, 15.8N, 108.0W, 85, 968, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,

(Ignore the 0's at the end since I didn't analyze the wind field size)

* Some of the early intensities are increased, on the higher end of Dvorak estimates, with ASCAT data suggesting at one point it was stronger than Dvorak suggested.
* The peak intensity is moved up considerably, to 1500Z June 3 (about 9 hours earlier than operational). I think it reached 125 kt right there, then the upwelling began. There was good consensus I believe on a T6.5 average there.
* The weakening begins sooner, and is greater. I think it bottomed out at 70 kt, a bit lower than Dvorak (T4.5) as Recon found it lower.
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#454 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:13 pm

Alyono wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:I'd go 95, given that both numbers are .5 of a T higher than Recon.


Just made an in house Dvorak. I am still going with a 4.5 for this. Not sufficient convection on the entire northern semi-circle to justify a higher rating


Using what image/frame?
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#455 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:25 pm

TAFB going with 5.0 is surprising as I find them the most conservative.
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#456 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:28 pm

Kingarabian wrote:TAFB going with 5.0 is surprising as I find them the most conservative.


TAFB is very nice to hurricanes.

It's SAB that was the one that is conservative.

TAFB is 5.5 now anyhow. It was 5.0 when Recon was in though.
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#457 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:28 pm

Almost a full ring of white and plenty of gray/dark gray. Deserving of the 5.0 if recon never went out today. Also has some substance since the core is back.

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#458 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:30 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:TAFB going with 5.0 is surprising as I find them the most conservative.


TAFB is very nice to hurricanes.

It's SAB that was the one that is conservative.

TAFB is 5.5 now anyhow. It was 5.0 when Recon was in though.


Really? Shows 5.0 on the atcf fix file I'm looking at.
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#459 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:32 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Really? Shows 5.0 on the atcf fix file I'm looking at.


Nevermind. I thought it was at 5.5. I'd go 90, and could understand 85 then.

5.5 seems way too high. My analysis yields 5.0, but could argue for as low as 4.0.
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#460 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:33 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:TAFB going with 5.0 is surprising as I find them the most conservative.


TAFB is very nice to hurricanes.

It's SAB that was the one that is conservative.

TAFB is 5.5 now anyhow. It was 5.0 when Recon was in though.


Really? Shows 5.0 on the atcf fix file I'm looking at.

EP, 02, 201506052345, 10, DVTS, CI, , 1580N, 10800W, , 2, 102, 2, 960, 2, DVRK, , , , , , , , , , , , , , E, TAFB, MF, VI, 3, 5555 /////, , , GOES13, CSC, T,
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