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Re: ATL: FOUR - Models

#241 Postby PTrackerLA » Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:59 pm

Frank2 wrote:I've been away from the board for only 2 hours, but the posts have definitely cooled from the earlier model comments...


Dynamical models are definitely at odds with the NHC forecast. I don't recall seeing this occur too often. I'm actually quite intrigued as to how this situation evolves, this could be a learning experience 8-) .
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#242 Postby adam0983 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:01 pm

Based on the current location of Tropical Depression 4 I think it will be highly unlikely for a US Landfall due to the location of the storm. I see this heading into Central America or the Yucantan if it survives the shear and the El Nino. Just an Opinion not a forcast.
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#243 Postby hurricanekid416 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:03 pm

Based on the models, the nhc seems to be overdoing the intensity
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#244 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:03 pm

An upper-level ridge dominates the central and eastern Atlantic, and as a result shear should remain near or below 10 knots for at least the next 5 days. The only inhibitor will be dust and mid-level dry air.
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Models

#245 Postby ronjon » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:34 pm

12z GFDL which previous runs didn't develop, now develops Danny into a hurricane at 972 mbs and 82 kts.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2015081812-four04l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation
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#246 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:35 pm

UKMET and ECMWF battling it out! GFS is lost.

From the 5pm NHC disco:

"The UKMET retains the weakness in the ridge longer, taking the
cyclone northeast of the Lesser Antilles. In contrast, the ECMWF
model strengthens the ridge sooner, which drives Danny more westward
and considerably faster at 96 and 120 hours
. The GFS poorly
initialized Danny this morning, and it is noticeably slower than
all of the available model guidance and, therefore, has been given
much less weight on this forecast cycle.[/i]"
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#247 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:39 pm

gatorcane wrote:UKMET and ECMWF battling it out!

From the 5pm NHC disco:

The UKMET retains the weakness in the ridge longer, taking the
cyclone northeast of the Lesser Antilles. In contrast, the ECMWF
model strengthens the ridge sooner, which drives Danny more westward
and considerably faster at 96 and 120 hours
.

The GFS is lost....

The GFS poorly
initialized Danny this morning, and it is noticeably slower than
all of the available model guidance and, therefore, has been given
much less weight on this forecast cycle.


So, they are saying it is a battle between UKMET and EURO lol they bashed the GFS.
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#248 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:51 pm

hurricanekid416 wrote:Based on the models, the nhc seems to be overdoing the intensity


good news is the models arent the only tools they use
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#249 Postby SeminoleWind » Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:24 pm

Quick question.
I always thought the BAMM BAMMS and BAMMD when they are grouped together like they are leads to more likelihood of less shear forecasted?
wouldn't that indicate in theory since SSTs are good that less shear much better chance for development?
Excuse my ignorance if i am wrong.
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#250 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:33 pm

I wonder if the GFS will initialize properly on this run starting now? If so very curious what it does with Danny.
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#251 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:38 pm

gatorcane wrote:I wonder if the GFS will initialize properly on this run starting now? If so very curious what it does with Danny.


18Z loses it at 24 hours.
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#252 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:50 pm

tolakram wrote:
gatorcane wrote:I wonder if the GFS will initialize properly on this run starting now? If so very curious what it does with Danny.


18Z loses it at 24 hours.


I do hope your comment is a joke. If it's not then any remaining faith in the GFS just went out the window.

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#253 Postby perk » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:00 pm

tolakram wrote:
gatorcane wrote:I wonder if the GFS will initialize properly on this run starting now? If so very curious what it does with Danny.


18Z loses it at 24 hours.


It does not lose Danny thru 54 hours.
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Models

#254 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:00 pm

Looks like the 18z models will generally move Danny towards the NE Caribbean... Doesn't look like a Carribean cruiser for now...
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#255 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:02 pm

18Z GFS down to 996MB at 90 hours
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Models

#256 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:03 pm

18Z gfs is stronger this run...72 hours

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#257 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:03 pm

90 hours and ramping up: :eek:

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#258 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:05 pm

tolakram wrote:
gatorcane wrote:I wonder if the GFS will initialize properly on this run starting now? If so very curious what it does with Danny.


18Z loses it at 24 hours.


Woops, not correct. Maybe viewed a cached image.
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#259 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:15 pm

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#260 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:18 pm

GFS getting stronger and heading west towards Leewards. 18Z has it at 991MB.

Notice how it is speeding up the timeline here. To move that quickly, that must be a strong ridge to the north.

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