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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1621 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:00 am

N2FSU wrote:From the 11am Discussion:

Both the GFS and ECMWF global models
continue to depict the system opening up into a wave within 48
hours. Given these unfavorable signs, the official forecast shows
weakening as in the previous advisories. However, because of the
uncertainties in tropical cyclone intensity prediction
, it is
prudent to issue a tropical storm watch for Puerto Rico and the
U.S. Virgin Islands at this time.


NHC acknowledging that future intensity is still debatable?

They said that a couple of advisories ago. I am not the least bit surprised that even the NHC crew are having a hard time figuring out the intensity from here on out.
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#1622 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:09 am

Tropical cyclone intensity forecasting has in the past and will remain the most challenging, despite all the advances made in improving forecasting these systems for the past couple of decades. This is especially true in this case with Danny, given how small the system had been his entire lifespan.
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1623 Postby Sanibel » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:10 am

GFDL recurves Danny well east of Florida and forms a 110 knot hurricane.



The convection rebound is probably due to SST's. Don't know what to make of it but this is what you would see with a survivor.
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#1624 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:14 am

NHC track still keeps it the same from last advisory.

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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1625 Postby sponger » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:15 am

It is fighting better than you would expect. However, the projected track over the DR could be more than problematic for its survival. Lets not forget that an open circulation TD 10 eventually became Katrina. Any circulation entering the Gulf of Mexico needs to be watched if conditions improve, which is forecasted.
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1626 Postby sponger » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:16 am

Sanibel wrote:GFDL recurves Danny well east of Florida and forms a 110 knot hurricane.



The convection rebound is probably due to SST's. Don't know what to make of it but this is what you would see with a survivor.


That would be so nice!
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#1627 Postby tropicwatch » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:18 am

Conditions at 41300 as of
(12:00 pm ADT)
1500 GMT on 08/23/2015:
15.850 N 57.467 W (15°51'0" N 57°28'0" W)

Unit of Measure: English

Wind Direction Wind Direction (WDIR): ENE ( 70 deg true )
Wind Speed Wind Speed (WSPD): 36.9 kts
Wave Height Wave Height (WVHT): 15.1 ft
Dominant Wave Period Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 9 sec
Atmospheric Pressure Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.79 in
Pressure Tendency Pressure Tendency (PTDY): -0.04 in ( Falling )
Air Temperature Air Temperature (ATMP): 74.1 °F
Water Temperature Water Temperature (WTMP): 82.4 °F
Dew Point Dew Point (DEWP): 68.0 °F
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1628 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:21 am

Sanibel wrote:GFDL recurves Danny well east of Florida and forms a 110 knot hurricane.



The convection rebound is probably due to SST's. Don't know what to make of it but this is what you would see with a survivor.


960MB, image posted in models thread.
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1629 Postby Nederlander » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:25 am

gatorcane wrote:
Sanibel wrote:GFDL recurves Danny well east of Florida and forms a 110 knot hurricane.



The convection rebound is probably due to SST's. Don't know what to make of it but this is what you would see with a survivor.


960MB, image posted in models thread.


Sheesh that would be a cat 4
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1630 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:28 am

gatorcane wrote:
Sanibel wrote:GFDL recurves Danny well east of Florida and forms a 110 knot hurricane.



The convection rebound is probably due to SST's. Don't know what to make of it but this is what you would see with a survivor.


960MB, image posted in models thread.


It's a good thing that probably the only way it could get that way is if it's headed out to sea. Could pose a problem for Bermuda though.

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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1631 Postby WPBWeather » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:30 am

SouthFLTropics wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
Sanibel wrote:GFDL recurves Danny well east of Florida and forms a 110 knot hurricane.



The convection rebound is probably due to SST's. Don't know what to make of it but this is what you would see with a survivor.


960MB, image posted in models thread.


It's a good thing that probably the only way it could get that way is if it's headed out to sea. Could pose a problem for Bermuda though.

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The little bugger just won't go away. The weather science guys need to really study this one.
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1632 Postby Sanibel » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:36 am

I think NHC wisely realizes the shear isn't going to stop once Danny enters the Caribbean. Since the Caribbean is acting like July therefore Danny will be wiped-out. Danny's taking a low track now that should crash whatever remains on Hispaniola, which should be it.
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1633 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:39 am

Sanibel wrote:I think NHC wisely realizes the shear isn't going to stop once Danny enters the Caribbean. Since the Caribbean is acting like July therefore Danny will be wiped-out. Danny's taking a low track now that should crash whatever remains on Hispaniola, which should be it.



While I agree a track over Hispaniola is deadly. I think Danny has a strong enough vorticy to survive it if it is not directly over the mountains. I was ready to kill this thing off last night so know that too. Shear is not increasing it is dying in the Caribbean as according to this map below.

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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1634 Postby tailgater » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:43 am

Does anyone have shear forecast the eastern Caribbean over the next 2 days, not that I trust any of those that much.
Thanks in advance
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ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#1635 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:48 am

Danny is going naked again.

Edit: Oops wrong thread, mods please delete my post.

Edit: Never mind, lol.
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1636 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:49 am

tailgater wrote:Does anyone have shear forecast the eastern Caribbean over the next 2 days, not that I trust any of those that much.
Thanks in advance


Here was the latest from the 6z GFS run.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.cgi?time=2015082306&field=850-200mb+Shear&hour=Animation

source: http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#1637 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:51 am

NDG wrote:Danny is going naked again.

How so?
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#1638 Postby Nederlander » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:52 am

tailgater wrote:Does anyone have shear forecast the eastern Caribbean over the next 2 days, not that I trust any of those that much.
Thanks in advance


Shear looks to drastically diminish in 24-48 hours over most of the caribbean (if you have any level of confidence in shear forecasts.) So conditions look to improve, but there is also land interaction to deal with down the road. He is not out of the woods with the current shear though either. Tops are really getting blown off on vis imagery.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#1639 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:52 am

AutoPenalti wrote:
NDG wrote:Danny is going naked again.

How so?


Last visible frame I can see the western circulation of the LLC.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#1640 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:53 am

NDG wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
NDG wrote:Danny is going naked again.

How so?


Last visible frame I can see the western circulation of the LLC.

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Oh yeah I see it now. Here's a pic if anyone else wants to peak.
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