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#201 Postby floridasun78 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:01 pm

twc say 98l got hit shear and dry air to nw and say that likely only stay strong ts not hurr near bahamas he show too most models show as strong ts nor hurr
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#202 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:07 pm

The waiting game continues. At least they can release a STWO.
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#203 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:08 pm

Seems to have problems organizing with how fast it's going. Doesn't seem to be slowing down and it's only hurting itself.
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#204 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:16 pm

floridasun78 wrote:twc say 98l got hit shear and dry air to nw and say that likely only stay strong ts not hurr near bahamas he show too most models show as strong ts nor hurr


Models that strengthened 98L to hurricane recurved near/east of Bahamas... A shallower TS strengthening as it moves into the Bahamas... Not good IMO, hard to escape after that...
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#205 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:19 pm

Will conditions even be favorable in the Bahamas is the big question?
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#206 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:22 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Will conditions even be favorable in the Bahamas is the big question?


GFS/Euro seem to show favorable conditions in EGOM, not sure how far east they carry from EGOM...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#207 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:28 pm

I guess this was why no upgrade at 5.

Levi Cowan ‏@TropicalTidbits · 15m15 minutes ago
Buoy 41041 not making it easy to classify 98L. Still north wind despite seemingly on south side. 1004mb pressure.

Eric Blake ‏@EricBlake12 · 12m12 minutes ago
@TropicalTidbits it's like Xmas morning every hour with that buoy for the moment :)
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#208 Postby Hammy » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:34 pm

Looks like the center is still a bit broad at the moment given the lack of any westerly component to the wind--satellite indicates low cloud flow moving west to east, but well south of the circulation center (and south of the buoy). Probably another hour or two to go before it passes but I suspect if we don't see anything in the next few hours indicating a closed low (barring an ASCAT pass later) they'll wait until tomorrow's flight.
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#209 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:50 pm

I actually think this as an interesting life ahead and full of potential if it can develop and survive. GFS is likely too far East, but we shall see. The trof split coming down after this weeks Trof in the EAST will be a huge player in where this goes ***If*** it develops and can survive track into the Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#210 Postby ronjon » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:08 pm

Looks like the NHC is being cautious with 98L. It doesn't help it has little support from the GFS and Euro. They typically put a lot of weight on these globals.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#211 Postby ronjon » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:11 pm

Off topic but that WU show on TWC is barely watchable. The hosts seem to be trying a little too hard.
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#212 Postby YoshiMike » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:11 pm

Being that there are favorable conditions in the EGOM, is there a chance it could rapidly strengthen and hit like the panhandle or central gulf coast or is that already ruled out? And yes, I am aware it is too far out for any certainty, I'm asking about the possibility
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#213 Postby Hammy » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:17 pm

Buoy winds are out of ENE now, is it possible the center was pulled (or redeveloped) closer to the convection and went a bit south?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#214 Postby MGC » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:26 pm

No rush to upgrade still a ways off from the islands. Might have a hard time closing off that west wind with 98L moving a fast as it is. Should be a TC soon though......MGC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#215 Postby LarryWx » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:30 pm

I just saw the brand new hourly update at buoy 41041 and still saw no westerly component of the winds. Maybe the main reason for that is that the center didn't pass to the north after all (consistent with what Hammy said). It looks to me that the center may have gone right over it (winds lightened to only 2 knots) and has just passed it being that pressures are now rising. Winds shifted from N to NE to SE within just a half hour. However, one thing I'm noting is that the highest wind gusts before it passed were only ~21 knots. So, based on that alone, perhaps the NHC is waiting to see if there are going to be higher winds than that to allow for an upgrade. Also, the SE winds following its passage are so far only gusting to around 10 knots. I'll be looking to see how much stronger they get over the next few hours as the center pulls away to the west. If they don't exceed the low 20's of knots, I suppose it could still be upgraded to a 25 knot TD.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#216 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:41 pm

With that spin and red IR I don't see anything to stop development. Don't know what's inhibiting it right now. And it's in category 3 Danny's wake.



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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#217 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:51 pm

Sanibel wrote:With that spin and red IR I don't see anything to stop development. Don't know what's inhibiting it right now. And it's in category 3 Danny's wake.



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I think 98L is its own worst enemy right now due to the forward speed. If it slows down it will really get stacked and takeoff.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#218 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:52 pm

The shear analysis is more complex, with a anti-cyclone over top but not aligned.

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#219 Postby YoshiMike » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:13 pm

May I ask what an anti cyclone is?
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#220 Postby tropicwatch » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:17 pm

41041 found the wind


Station 41041
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Location: 14.329N 46.082W
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:50:00 UTC

Winds: S (180°) at 35.0 kt gusting to 42.7 kt
Significant Wave Height: 10.5 ft
Dominant Wave Period: 10 sec
Mean Wave Direction: ENE (73°)
Atmospheric Pressure: 29.69 in and rising
Air Temperature: 77.4 F
Dew Point: 75.4 F
Water Temperature: 81.5 F

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