ATL: 90L - ERIKA Remnants - Models

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#941 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:17 am

12Z Guidance with the IVCN bringing it to a CAT 3/4 but the LGEM is still around a strong TS. the GFTI (likely too strong) is approaching CAT 5:

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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#942 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:20 am

:uarrow: :uarrow: Been a while since I've seen an Atlantic system intensity model reach Cat 5... Likely not going to happen, but it's been a while...
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#943 Postby Steve H. » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:23 am

Gator, do you have a link ?
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#944 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:25 am

gatorcane wrote:12Z Guidance with the IVCN bringing it to a CAT 3/4 but the LGEM is still around a strong TS. the GFTI (likely too strong) is approaching CAT 5:

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Wow, GFTI. How reliable is that model anyway?
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#945 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:35 am

The UKMET (United Kingdom model) turns her just east of Florida but WAY too close for comfort.

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#946 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:43 am

Here is the Euro's UL forecast for Sunday evening when Erika is over or near the FL straights. This will be a rapidly strengthening hurricane if this UL forecast pans out!!

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#947 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:45 am

spiral wrote:http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=05L&pkg=mslp_pcpn_frzn&runtime=2015082606&fh=6&xpos=0&ypos=240

MU 06z hi res not interested washes out.


That's because it looses the low pressure center, this particular run does strengthens it some as it nears FL more than previous runs.
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#948 Postby BucMan2 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:55 am

As far as intensity goes most all models show atleast a cat 1 if I'm reading correctly
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#949 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:56 am

BucMan2 wrote:As far as intensity goes most all models show atleast a cat 1 if I'm reading correctly


GFS and Canadian show a wave or very weak TS.
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#950 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:58 am

BucMan2 wrote:As far as intensity goes most all models show atleast a cat 1 if I'm reading correctly


That's the consensus among all models, but the GFS is barely bringing into a tropical storm when it gets to near FL on the GOM side.
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#951 Postby BucMan2 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:59 am

I'm sorry tolakram I stand corrected -
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#952 Postby Mouton » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:01 am

SouthFLTropics wrote:
rockyman wrote:The TVCN now ends around Cedar Key, Florida, in response to some of the models showing a building ridge north of Erika as it approaches the Florida coast.


Look at the crazy left hook it takes into Cape Canaveral!


Very similar to Dora in 64. That storm was a category 4 I think in the Atlantic and dropped to category 2 as it approached south of Jacksonville.
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#953 Postby robbielyn » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:07 am

if she misses her forecast point she could get shredded by Hispaniola and gfs could be right.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#954 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:10 am

Loving the model consensus this morning.

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#955 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:16 am

robbielyn wrote:if she misses her forecast point she could get shredded by Hispaniola and gfs could be right.


GFS doesn't bring it over Hispaniola, it just fails to develop it.

After it moves away the vorticity is washed out, not sure why, but it stays north of Hispaniola.

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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#956 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:52 am

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06z GFDL well east of Florida... 144 mph Cat 4... The fast intensification models recurve sooner...

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06z HWRF... Gets tangled in Hispaniola... 90 mph... Finds better conditions moving towards/just East of SFL...
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#957 Postby boca » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:15 am

It doesn't look like the storm is following the projected path because the models clearly have a WNW trajectory but Erika is moving west
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#958 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:20 am

For what is worth the 12z NAM does not weaken Erika to a tropical wave.

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... 0&ypos=117
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#959 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:22 am

boca wrote:It doesn't look like the storm is following the projected path because the models clearly have a WNW trajectory but Erika is moving west


It has not been moving straight west overall, which is what the models and NHC have been showing.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#960 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:22 am

I wont be here for the 12z GFS run but I'll save and post images when I get back after 1pm or so. Someone else please feel free to post the graphics. :) GFS run starts at 11:30AM EDT. Euro run starts at 1:45PM EDT.
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