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#21 Postby themusk » Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:51 pm

North MD wrote: The worst of the storm hasn't even struck this region N VA, MD yet, so the best is yet to come, dude.


Gee, I feel sorry for his disappointment. I can't help but root for Isabel to be nice and strong for him :wink:
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#22 Postby Guest » Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:56 pm

I think some here has missed the point here..................If i am correct he is referring to what he has gotten or wont be getting from the storm when otherwise was advertised................Im sure he doesnt mean that it was a bust for those that lost thier lives or homes in this cane so far............................
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#23 Postby drudd1 » Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:03 pm

You may be right King, and if I am wrong I apologize. Irregardless, the timing and wording were inappropriate given the situation.
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#24 Postby Heady Guy » Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:14 pm

I would like to know how it was a bust. Mu buddy in South VABeach had his roof blown off his house. He thinks to his house haf around 20 K damage. He said his location got pounded.. multiple houses had damage.. he swears possible tornado.
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#25 Postby Anonymous » Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:29 pm

Perhaps Ji would like some clean up duty. Anyone have a yard that needs a volunteer :?
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#26 Postby mf_dolphin » Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:31 pm

I think we need to give Ji the benefit of the doubt that he was talking about his local area. From the initial reports Isabel hit a lot of people very hard. Let's just be grateful that it wasn;t a strong CAT3 or 4 wheb she came ashore!
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#27 Postby JetMaxx » Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:21 pm

We haven't seen video on tv from the Outer Banks in the Rodanthe to Hatteras to Ocracoke and Portsmouth areas yet...and from the strength of the hurricane, the fact it crossed the Outer Banks near high tide, and at a very bad angle....I'm afraid the storm surge damage there is trememdous.

This was the worst hurricane to strike the Outer Banks since Donna....and the worst lashing I've ever seen at Virginia Beach (103 mph gust and a lot of storm surge flooding).

This hurricane was much worse in the Norfolk and Hampton Roads areas than Gloria....and is likely the worst in that area since September 1944 (Donna in 1960 only produced 75 mph gusts at Virginia Beach, and far lower storm tide levels).

It wasn't a major hurricane....but caused plenty of damage...IMO more than we currently know about.
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#28 Postby Ababa » Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:47 pm

We will see what happens but for washington, Baltimore, Philly, and New York this storm has received a disproportionate amount of hype vs. effects, hence JI calling it a bust. For NC this storm was obviously not a bust though I am sure many wish it was.
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#29 Postby WEATHER53 » Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:22 pm

Had almost finished a reply 10 minutes ago but lost power. Winds have become more s-sw and think this may be exposing some electrical vulnerability that I had escaped earlier. I think if you "average" from Outer Banks to MD/PA border that this storm will not have been worse than Hazel but will be ther worst since hazel.
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#30 Postby SacrydDreamz » Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:49 pm

WEATHER53 wrote:What is a bigger bust is that the ever pathetic WWBB is down again. We just cannot seem to get people to give up on that substandard site and come here instead to a site that is dependable and the operators have integrity to maintain the site and respond to e-mails.


The mods don't rule with an iron fist over there.. I am assuming this post will be deleted soon :roll: "Minimal meteorolgist," in response to a condescending post.. sheesh! :oops:
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#31 Postby SacrydDreamz » Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:55 pm

Ababa wrote:We will see what happens but for washington, Baltimore, Philly, and New York this storm has received a disproportionate amount of hype vs. effects, hence JI calling it a bust. For NC this storm was obviously not a bust though I am sure many wish it was.


It's a bust if you give in to the media hype!! A point to consider, a forecast is a forecast, the weather is never "supposed to be" anything. I really hate it when people say things such as, "It is supposed to be 87 today," or "it's supposed to hit New Jersey.."
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#32 Postby alicia-w » Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:49 am

THIRTEEN people are dead, seven of them in Virginia. Doesnt sound like a bust to me. Have some respect and keep such cynical comments to yourself.
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#33 Postby Anonymous » Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:58 am

Its a bust because i have never been in a hurricane before....we followed this baby for 2 weeks. and it weakened from a historical cat 5 to lowly cat 1 before hitting land.

I live 20 Miles West of DC and never saw a gust above 40 and didnt see any heavy rain till about 11pm which lasted for about 2 hours. So too me, it was nothing but a neat little rainstorm. There was alot of damage in the DC area so i guess it wasnt the bust that i thought it was but I never thought when i opened the windows in my house at 2pm..that i would never have to close them again.


I expected more. My work closed for 2 days for zero reason.
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#34 Postby jude » Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:40 am

Consider yourself lucky, Ji person.
Hopefully, you never will have to be in a hurricane. It's not an amusement ride.

I know people on Hatteras Island whose lives are devastated.
-Jude
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Ji... do you realize..

#35 Postby ChrisFSUWxStudent » Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:00 am

Ji wrote:Its a bust because i have never been in a hurricane before....we followed this baby for 2 weeks. and it weakened from a historical cat 5 to lowly cat 1 before hitting land.

I live 20 Miles West of DC and never saw a gust above 40 and didnt see any heavy rain till about 11pm which lasted for about 2 hours. So too me, it was nothing but a neat little rainstorm. There was alot of damage in the DC area so i guess it wasnt the bust that i thought it was but I never thought when i opened the windows in my house at 2pm..that i would never have to close them again.


I expected more. My work closed for 2 days for zero reason.


Do you realize that Isabel didn't hit even close to where you live? It was well inland by the time DC experienced their worse effects from the system. Have you read any of the reports from NC/VA? 14 dead, so far. That's not a bust. Anyway, you need to re-examine your "lowly Category 1" statement. I'll give you some slack :wink: , but lemme tell ya, even 75 mph winds are nothing to play around with. Very hard to stand still, let alone walk.
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#36 Postby vbhoutex » Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:33 am

SacrydDreamz wrote:
WEATHER53 wrote:What is a bigger bust is that the ever pathetic WWBB is down again. We just cannot seem to get people to give up on that substandard site and come here instead to a site that is dependable and the operators have integrity to maintain the site and respond to e-mails.


The mods don't rule with an iron fist over there.. I am assuming this post will be deleted soon :roll: "Minimal meteorolgist," in response to a condescending post.. sheesh! :oops:


Surprise, surprise SacrydDreamz!!! I am leaving this post up. I shouldn't as it is a direct cut/flame at some very dedicated and hard working people. In case you didn't get the drift of the message you were sent-WHICH WAS NOT MEANT TO BE MADE PUBLIC-it is simply that we do not want or allow anything akin to flaming at Storm2k-PLAIN AND SIMPLE!! I will say to you and to anyone else that does not lilke the modeeration on this board-there are other sites that you are welcome to go to. We will not hold you here against your will nor will we allow flames against other individuals on this site.
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#37 Postby Guest » Fri Sep 19, 2003 12:55 pm

vbhoutex wrote:
SacrydDreamz wrote:
WEATHER53 wrote:What is a bigger bust is that the ever pathetic WWBB is down again. We just cannot seem to get people to give up on that substandard site and come here instead to a site that is dependable and the operators have integrity to maintain the site and respond to e-mails.


The mods don't rule with an iron fist over there.. I am assuming this post will be deleted soon :roll: "Minimal meteorolgist," in response to a condescending post.. sheesh! :oops:


Surprise, surprise SacrydDreamz!!! I am leaving this post up. I shouldn't as it is a direct cut/flame at some very dedicated and hard working people. In case you didn't get the drift of the message you were sent-WHICH WAS NOT MEANT TO BE MADE PUBLIC-it is simply that we do not want or allow anything akin to flaming at Storm2k-PLAIN AND SIMPLE!! I will say to you and to anyone else that does not lilke the modeeration on this board-there are other sites that you are welcome to go to. We will not hold you here against your will nor will we allow flames against other individuals on this site.




Yep im not deleting this as well..................Incase you didnt noticed SacrydDreams as a whole the Mets at BOTH site scored the same with Isabel with either or track and intensity!.........................Kinda funny how DT can get along fine as well as some of the other mets now visiting here but some of the NON-mets have a problem from over there??????? I WONDER WHY???
Need i discuss all the crap that was given to DT elsewhere when yet he Called this cane and the same goes for the other Pro mets who have to deal with a bunch of stuff elsewhere that we simply wont tolerate!........................So if you wanna have at it with a PRO Met here you better back it up and not with just flames because as VB just stated we wont tolerate it!.............................Other then that post away and have fun AND most of all RELAX! :D
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#38 Postby Mello1 » Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:08 pm

Its a bust because i have never been in a hurricane before....we followed this baby for 2 weeks. and it weakened from a historical cat 5 to lowly cat 1 before hitting land.

I live 20 Miles West of DC and never saw a gust above 40 and didnt see any heavy rain till about 11pm which lasted for about 2 hours. So too me, it was nothing but a neat little rainstorm. There was alot of damage in the DC area so i guess it wasnt the bust that i thought it was but I never thought when i opened the windows in my house at 2pm..that i would never have to close them again.


I expected more. My work closed for 2 days for zero reason.



So I take it that you would have been more satisfied if it were a Cat 5 storm and your house and perhaps your life was blown away as well. Good grief. Get over yourself. Or better yet, get out your canoe go to downtown Baltimore or Annapolis...

http://www.sunspot.net/

One more thing. Since your are so anxious to go to work. Go. Good luck in finding your office in the dark.
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#39 Postby Anonymous » Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:09 pm

Ji wrote:Its a bust because i have never been in a hurricane before....we followed this baby for 2 weeks. and it weakened from a historical cat 5 to lowly cat 1 before hitting land.

I live 20 Miles West of DC and never saw a gust above 40 and didnt see any heavy rain till about 11pm which lasted for about 2 hours. So too me, it was nothing but a neat little rainstorm. There was alot of damage in the DC area so i guess it wasnt the bust that i thought it was but I never thought when i opened the windows in my house at 2pm..that i would never have to close them again.


I expected more. My work closed for 2 days for zero reason.






Hi Ji. I am Jeb, I live in Woodbridge/Dale City which is 20 miles SSW of Washington DC, right along I-95.

I have never been in a hurricane either. I must confess I sort of did look forward to seeing this storm after it weakened to CAT2 before landfall.

I can sort of understand your looking forward to experiencing this hurricane. You are a weather enthusiast who only wanted to experience the winds, rains, and excitement of a hurricane. The storm was covered by the press, the news, and the Internet. Even I got excited about it giving Woodbridge some rain and winds, once I understood it was no longer a CAT5, but had weakened to a weak CAT2 cane.

After the storm was hyped (as are nearly all storms), you looked forward to the hurricane. When you did not get the strong winds and rains you wanted so badly to experience, it disappointed you. On Wednesday, the day before the hurricane hit Woodbridge, I was over at our regional mall, Potomac Mills, walking around its outer rim, which is a 1.7 mile walk. I was playing music on my headphones and I could see Isabel's blowoff cirrus to the southeast. I was already beginning to look forward to this cane because I knew it had weakened to a weak Cat 2.

I understand your disappointment, because there have been a few hyped up canes that were supposed to hit northern Virginia and we got nothing. That experience has happened to me before while I have been living here, and I have been here since 1968. I was too young to remember much about Agnes in 1972.

I very, very much wish that you had gotten to experience some hurricane-force sustained winds and some good heavy wind-whipped rains.

Because of the conditions you report, considering the hype that Isabel got, I can indeed see why you call this storm "IsaBUSTella".

Quantico, Va got 52 mph sustained winds and 78mph gusts. I think that is what happened in Dale City/Woodbridge. I watched entire trees in motion and I have NEVER seen those kinds of winds before!!! It scared me some, because I was afraid that the trees would come down on my house.


The way you feel about this Cane, Ji, is the way I feel about Woodbridge getting blasted by 36 inches of snow in the winter, accompanied by 40 mph winds to blow the snow everywhere and create drifts to 20 feet so I can go out and shovel all the snow with a snow shovel.

I am very sorry that you did not get your hurricane experience. I wish you had gotten the 2 inches of rain I got and experienced the 52 to 78mph winds I experienced. Perhaps you should try to visit a coastal town down near Florida or some place like that when they are about to get hit by a Category 1 hurricane. Cat 1's are survivable, a Cat 3, 4 or 5 will kill you.

While I understand your disappointment over not getting any substantial hurricane-force winds and heavy rains from Isabel (or IsaBUSTella, as you call her), we need to remember that there are many people who got the hurricane but they got much more than they bargained for. As far as I know, 16 people are dead from this hurricane. I cried when I heard about Nags Head. The beach house my singles group uses each Oct 10 through 14 is probably in bad shape. The dune there is probably gone. I can only hope I will get to go there next month so I can walk around and enjoy the beach and see some of the places where Isabel hit. But my heart will be heavy because I know people there lost their homes, cars, and in some cases, their lives. We need to remember that even though these storms are fascinating, they are very, very destructive and kill people, wreck homes people work for 30 hard years to pay off, and wreck beaches that are very expensive to rebuild. Virginia Beach just spent 86 million dollars in 2001 on Beach replenishment. I was there in September that year; I saw it. Now Isabel has eroded some of the beach that that hard-hit town spent so much money to have replenished so that you and I can go have a nice pleasant walk on the beach. Parts of the Virginia Beach boardwalk were damaged. This storm ruined people's cars and caused trees to fall on residences which causes major structural damage to homes and has to be repaired which can be very, very expensive and can plunge many people into bankruptcy and even homelessness.

There actually is not much good to be said of hurricanes, except that they transfer excess heat from the tropics to the more northern latitudes.

Just think of all those people, Ji, that are sitting in the dark right now because they did get the hurricane. They face another night without power in their homes. Think of sixteen families tonight sorrowing and crying because their loved ones perished in the hurricane. Think of all the people who got to experience the hurricane, but their home is in total ruins. It can't be salvaged, or if it can, it will cost them thousands and thousands of dollars that they do not have and will never have. Their lives are therefore destroyed. They will have nowhere to go. If they are older people I do not know what they will do.

It breaks my heart. I should have been praying harder that Issy would not hit the US. But, I was too busy tracking Izzy here at Storm2k. (But, that is my fault and not Storm2k's fault).

I am sure, Ji, that you will one day be able to experience your hurricane. You will feel the winds and see all the rain and flooding you ever want, and you will be safe through it all. I am very sorry you did not get to experience from Isabel all that you wanted.



-Jeb
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