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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#461 Postby wxman57 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:40 am

Tireman4 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Snow in Dallas/Ft. Worth the 27th!
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... _us_39.png


Why do I think you are laughing....


Dang, you caught me! :lol:
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#462 Postby Ralph's Weather » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:57 am

Best thing about the GFS forecast is that it is holding onto a storm with snow potential for that time frame. Its ensembles are all over the place still though. Euro is slower as usual with the SW upper low. Its ensembles are faster though. The GEM is further north with similar timing to the GFS. Its ensembles are generally much further SW though.
It looks pretty warm for a couple days on either side of Christmas with compressional heating ahead of the big low. As it usual with these type systems all will depend on the track, south of I-20 and we get a good snow in North Texas and a Oklahoma track gives us storms.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#463 Postby hriverajr » Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:01 am

6z GFS showing quite a storm crossing the state a couple of days after Christmas.Lots of cold air too.. lets see what the 12z shows :p

OOPS did not see the other posts..
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#464 Postby TheProfessor » Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:40 am

Those are crazy totals for Oklahoma on the 6z lol. I say bring on snowmaggedon! I need to see if my new coat will survive a Real Ohio winter anyways. :lol:
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#465 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:45 am

JMA just ditched the euro/jamstec and befriended the cfsv2 for the rest of the winter and blowtorch Northeastern half of the US 1877 style. My oh my on the eastern geese...

Cooler surface temps it has for the southern plains.

Jamstec is unrealistic because it has cold DJF and given folks up there are 10F+ Dec that's very unlikely. It's becoming more and more apparent the Super Nino is doing what other super Nino's do. The saving grace for the eastern conus will have to come from the EPO
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#466 Postby Ralph's Weather » Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:54 am

Last two runs of the GFS are very similar with a classic upper low crossing the state dumping very heavy snow on NW Texas and some in western N TX. The last week of the year will be much colder than it has been for any extended period so far this season with highs in the 30s and 40s.
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#467 Postby gatorcane » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:02 pm

12Z GFS run, looking a little interesting regarding this storm system:

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#468 Postby orangeblood » Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:12 pm

gatorcane wrote:12Z GFS run, looking a little interesting regarding this storm system:



Canadian is remarkably similar from this far out...

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#469 Postby gboudx » Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:14 pm

That looks like it would be fun to drive in on the way back to Dallas from New Orleans. Actually the last one posted would work since we would be home by then.
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#470 Postby TheProfessor » Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:29 pm

If we could get that low to shift to the southeast a bit we would be in line for wintery fun (if the storm even happens).
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#471 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:55 pm

DFW recorded a freeze this morning at 31F. No freezeless december.

Storm is on the Euro too, however on all of the guidance still 10 days away
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#472 Postby hriverajr » Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:58 pm

Of note, the European is much further north with the 500 mb low after Christmas vs the GFS
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#473 Postby Brent » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:01 pm

:double:

I don't buy it but it's sure pretty to see. :P

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#474 Postby hriverajr » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:05 pm

Ntxw wrote:DFW recorded a freeze this morning at 31F. No freezeless december.

Storm is on the Euro too, however on all of the guidance still 10 days away


Interesting in that Del Rio much farther SW got down to 30 this morning... Our mornings have been chilly. I guess we are a bit closer to the cold air source ..... Might be interesting out here later in the heart of winter.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#475 Postby Brent » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:58 pm

From FWD about the post-Christmas storm:

Highs Christmas Day 65-70... not as terrible as it could be


THE STORM SYSTEM WILL TRACK EASTWARD INTO THE PLAINS NEXT WEEKEND
WHICH PROBABLY MEANS NORTH AND CENTRAL TEXAS WILL FACE SOME THREAT
OF HEAVY RAINFALL AND/OR SEVERE WEATHER GIVEN THAT THIS SYSTEM
WILL TAP INTO RICH GULF MOISTURE AND PROVIDE STRONG WIND SHEAR OUT
AHEAD OF IT. SOME MODEL RUNS LIKE THE 12Z GFS AND CANADIAN
ADVERTISE A THREAT OF SNOW ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE UPPER LOW ACROSS
THE NORTHWESTERN CWA. WHILE THIS IS A VALID POSSIBILITY...ANY
SNOW POTENTIAL IS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY TIED TO THE TRACK OF THE
CLOSED UPPER LOW...SOMETHING THAT NO COMPUTER MODEL CAN ACCURATELY
PREDICT 7 TO 9 DAYS OUT...WHICH IS EVIDENCED BY THE LARGE RUN-TO-
RUN CHANGES THAT WE HAVE ALREADY OBSERVED WITH THIS FEATURE.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#476 Postby Brent » Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:11 pm

18z GFS looks interesting again:

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Temps behind it:

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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#477 Postby wxman57 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:12 pm

Euro is a good bit farther north with the snow - up in Kansas and as far south as the northern TX Panhandle.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#478 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:16 pm

Definitely some changes to occur in the stratosphere the rest of December. Now would be a good time to start seeing it for a January reversal of the AO. Not quite yet the Polar Vortex split but better signs of displacement.
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#479 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:20 pm

hriverajr wrote:
Ntxw wrote:DFW recorded a freeze this morning at 31F. No freezeless december.

Storm is on the Euro too, however on all of the guidance still 10 days away


Interesting in that Del Rio much farther SW got down to 30 this morning... Our mornings have been chilly. I guess we are a bit closer to the cold air source ..... Might be interesting out here later in the heart of winter.


The southwest/southern rockies/w-sw Texas has been troughy this year. kind of like a magnet. This configuration of heights have brought us copious rains in 2015 by splitting the jet.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#480 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:00 pm

Not Texas but...big sigh of relief up in Buffalo! The NWS sure got excited after extending that record for so long. SAved by the Lake Effect


NWS BUFFALO ‏@NWSBUFFALO 2h2 hours ago
Buffalo airport records its first measurable snow of the season.
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