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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#1741 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:58 pm

Anyone notice that 6+ inches bullseye of rain in SoCal for the next week? That's crazy! Half annual rainfall for some there. That's like a 15" rainfall here. That drought out there is going to get chopped away in a hurry.
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#1742 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:00 pm

And that is a good thing! :uarrow:
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#1743 Postby hriverajr » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:42 pm

0z gfs continues its wacky ways...
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#1744 Postby orangeblood » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:45 pm

The run to run swings on the GFS are inexcusable, that model is GARBAGE!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#1745 Postby hriverajr » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:49 pm

orangeblood wrote:The run to run swings on the GFS are inexcusable, that model is GARBAGE!!


Did you see the massive changes both surface and aloft? Past 4-5 days truly clueless
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#1746 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:56 pm

Laughable really :lol: Stuff here, stuff there. Put this together..wait no put that there! I mean at least stick to something, even if you want to be warm.

Oh man the GFS, this is low even for it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#1747 Postby Brent » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:57 pm

I really have to quit looking at the GFS every run... :roll: didn't they upgrade this model? :P
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#1748 Postby orangeblood » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:59 pm

hriverajr wrote:
orangeblood wrote:The run to run swings on the GFS are inexcusable, that model is GARBAGE!!


Did you see the massive changes both surface and aloft? Past 4-5 days truly clueless


Yep, some upper level features are displaced almost 1000 plus miles from run to run, and that's from less than 6 days out. What a waste of taxpayer money!
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#1749 Postby hriverajr » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:59 pm

The lack of run to run consistency is mind boggling. Essentially it's useless right now.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#1750 Postby Brent » Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:04 am

lol this run barely even has a freeze at DFW it appears... nice consistency. :roll:
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#1751 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:05 am

Yep 0z GFS looks boring in Ohio, I liked the 12z better with the constant clippers, you can get some insane ratios in them sometimes.
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#1752 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:09 am

I don't think the GFS is capable right now of handling all the numerous incoming shortwaves and the very strong subtropical jet stream embedded in the split flow type pattern. It just doesn't know what is what and what should go where. There's so many pieces, if it connects the northern and southern jet together it's a big blast, if it misses it's 180...goodness
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#1753 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:11 am

At least the Canadian is consistent :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#1754 Postby KatDaddy » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:36 am

Well stated from the Ft Worth NWS this morning:

THE GFS SHOWS SOME POTENTIAL
FOR WINTRY PRECIPITATION OVER THE WESTERN CWA DUE TO A COMBINATION
OF LIFT FROM A SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND MID-LEVEL FRONTOGENETIC
FORCING. WHILE THIS WILL UNDOUBTEDLY GET SOME AIR TIME IN SOCIAL
MEDIA... BOTH FEATURES ARE SUB-SYNOPTIC SCALE AND AS SUCH ARE
LIKELY TO CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY FROM MODEL RUN TO MODEL RUN.

FORECASTING SCALES OF TIME AND SIZE ARE CLOSELY RELATED TO ONE
ANOTHER. WHEN CONFIDENCE IN LARGE SCALE PATTERNS IS LOW...THE
CONFIDENCE IN THE TIMING OF THESE FEATURES IS ALSO VERY LOW. WILL
KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THE FORECAST FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK AS WE WILL
HAVE COLD AIR IN PLACE. HOWEVER HAVING MOISTURE OR LIFT NECESSARY
FOR WINTRY PRECIPITATION IS NOT SUPPORTED ON THE LARGE SCALE. AS A
RESULT... THE FORECAST REMAINS DRY FOR NOW. WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT
TO SEE IF SMALLER SCALE FEATURES WILL SUPPORT WINTRY PRECIPITATION
AS WE GET CLOSER IN TIME TO EARLY NEXT WEEK.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#1755 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:22 am

orangeblood wrote:The run to run swings on the GFS are inexcusable, that model is GARBAGE!!


Every run looks the same, to me. Cold and miserable. Some runs are just a little colder and more miserable than others. Euro has no snow south of the Red River (outside of the Panhandle) over the next 10 days. Down to the mid 20s in the Dallas area next Monday. Up to the mid to upper 60s across Houston Thu/Fri of this week. Possibly Houston's first (light) freeze next Tuesday. Just lots of useless cold in all the models.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#1756 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:22 am

Here's a snippet from Jeff Lindner's forecast note this morning. I think he sums it up pretty well for what we know at the moment:


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Some of the global models and their ensembles have been suggesting upper air amplification along the US west coast with high pressure ridging deep into the northern latitudes and some degree of high latitude blocking over the northern hemisphere over the next two weeks. There is some potential for an arctic air outbreak into the US at some point post Jan 12-15 time frame, but it remains unclear if this very cold air would head straight down the plains or be shunted more toward the eastern US.
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#1757 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:39 am

and their ensembles have been suggesting upper air amplification along the US west coast with high pressure ridging deep into the northern latitudes and some degree of high latitude blocking


Why can't these guys just use English instead of some weird kind of Magical Mystery words?
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#1758 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:56 am

WeatherGuesser wrote:and their ensembles have been suggesting upper air amplification along the US west coast with high pressure ridging deep into the northern latitudes and some degree of high latitude blocking


Why can't these guys just use English instead of some weird kind of Magical Mystery words?


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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#1759 Postby Tammie » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:08 am

:uarrow: Maps are good! I like maps! :lol:
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#1760 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:04 am

If yesterday (28) and this morning (26) can get this cold next week even without an ideal Arctic plunge should be able to reach around 20 or even below.
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