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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2961 Postby South Texas Storms » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:25 am

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JDawg512 wrote:I've been looking over the latest updates for the system coming in Friday night/Sat. Given the overall lack of confidence in forecasts beyond 3 days. What are the thoughts on the rainfall potential? It's starting to look a little better but I'm not getting my hopes up.


Seems like the trend is on an upswing in terms of rainfall potential. At least that is what I am seeing/reading.


It was trending upwards as of the 0z model runs last night, however the 6z and now the 12z GFS is showing hardly any rain across central Texas with this next system.

Sigh...the flow pattern is just too fast right now not allowing any systems to really dig into Mexico like we need.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2962 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:31 am

Slowly the system for this weekend is coming in drier and drier. May be coming in too positive tilted. The system headed to the northeast this weekend could be interesting for some.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2963 Postby Snowman67 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:47 am

El Nino even taking its toll in Chicago. Up here for a few days this week and was hoping to see some snow. I'm in the northern burbs and we are currently getting a mixture of rain/sleet/snow, but it is expected to transition to all rain later today, with maybe a little snow on the back side tomorrow. The low moved just a little too far north, or there would be a lot of snow here.

Wx57's control of the dial this winter is impressive.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2964 Postby wxman57 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:00 pm

Great news for you snow-lovers in the Dallas area! New GFS has a big snowstorm for you on February 14th. I'm sure that the 300-hr GFS is right THIS time.

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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2965 Postby Brent » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:11 pm

wxman57 wrote:00Z Euro has a raging snowstorm across the Hill Country on Saturday morning. Below is a total accumulated snowfall graphic for the storm. Stay safe out there this weekend!

http://oi64.tinypic.com/290r7ew.jpg


Get out the shovels!

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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2966 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:20 pm

We love Canada!

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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2967 Postby Portastorm » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:28 pm

Alright wxman57, I think it is time to tell you what our high school football coach tells the kids about scoring touchdowns ... "Act like you've been there before." :wink:

No further need to rub it in our faces. We get it that we are not getting it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2968 Postby hriverajr » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:26 pm

Portastorm wrote:Alright wxman57, I think it is time to tell you what our high school football coach tells the kids about scoring touchdowns ... "Act like you've been there before." :wink:

No further need to rub it in our faces. We get it that we are not getting it.


All I have to say is karma. ...
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2969 Postby Texas Snowman » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:39 pm

Portastorm wrote:Alright wxman57, I think it is time to tell you what our high school football coach tells the kids about scoring touchdowns ... "Act like you've been there before." :wink:

No further need to rub it in our faces. We get it that we are not getting it.


He was pretty confident at this time a year ago too. But I seem to remember the kids (in the Red River Valley, at least) having a few snow days in late February and early March. And the Mrs. burned plenty of firewood during that time span too.

Maybe not this year, but still, it's far too early to throw in the towel

Besides, you have to understand that our resident hurricane expert used to get the following on his elementary school report cards:

"Needs to work on citizenship; does not play well with others." :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2970 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:48 pm

hriverajr wrote:
Portastorm wrote:Alright wxman57, I think it is time to tell you what our high school football coach tells the kids about scoring touchdowns ... "Act like you've been there before." :wink:

No further need to rub it in our faces. We get it that we are not getting it.


All I have to say is karma. ...


Ughh...I just want a snowflake..just one...ughhh
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2971 Postby wxman57 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:11 pm

Texas Snowman wrote:...snip...

Besides, you have to understand that our resident hurricane expert used to get the following on his elementary school report cards:

"Needs to work on citizenship; does not play well with others." :lol:


Hey! Gimme my report cards back or I'll crank the Texas thermostat up again! :lol:

I looked at the EC's 2m temperature forecast through the next 10 days. It has only a light freeze for the Dallas area on Thursday and nothing close to freezing in Houston. The 21Z GFS has a similar light freeze for Dallas on Thursday and a couple other near-freezes through 10 days. It does have some mid 20s after the snow event on the 14th, if you believe it out beyond 72 hrs...

Note that I've generally been discussing potential winter weather over the next couple of weeks. I wouldn't be completely surprised if there's a pattern shift late this month or early in March that would bring a little colder air southward to Texas, allowing for some winter-type precipitation. However, I'm still not seeing much in the long-range predictors to give that much of a chance.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2972 Postby wxman57 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:13 pm

Tireman4 wrote:Ughh...I just want a snowflake..just one...ughhh


While you're here, several of us are talking about another get-together of the Houston-area S2K members during the Houston hurricane conference at the GRB convention center. Might even get Portastorm to pay us a visit.

Here's a really pretty snowflake:
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2973 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:11 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:Ughh...I just want a snowflake..just one...ughhh


While you're here, several of us are talking about another get-together of the Houston-area S2K members during the Houston hurricane conference at the GRB convention center. Might even get Portastorm to pay us a visit.

Here's a really pretty snowflake:
https://static-secure.guim.co.uk/sys-im ... -S-007.jpg


That should work. I am not sure if my son has a swim meet that day or not ( the schedules have not come out), but sure...oh thanks for the snowflake..LOL
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2974 Postby weatherdude1108 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:44 pm

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JDawg512 wrote:I've been looking over the latest updates for the system coming in Friday night/Sat. Given the overall lack of confidence in forecasts beyond 3 days. What are the thoughts on the rainfall potential? It's starting to look a little better but I'm not getting my hopes up.


Seems like the trend is on an upswing in terms of rainfall potential. At least that is what I am seeing/reading.


It was trending upwards as of the 0z model runs last night, however the 6z and now the 12z GFS is showing hardly any rain across central Texas with this next system.

Sigh...the flow pattern is just too fast right now not allowing any systems to really dig into Mexico like we need.


EWX seems to have backed off on the QPF and rain percentages this weekend (shocking).

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AUSTIN/SAN ANTONIO TX
323 PM CST TUE FEB 2 2016

.SHORT TERM (TONIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT)...
DRY...WARM AND BREEZY CONDITIONS ARE IN PLACE THIS AFTERNOON
ACROSS A GOOD PORTION OF SOUTH CENTRAL TEXAS. AFTERNOON
OBSERVATIONS SHOW TEMPERATURES IN THE 60S TO LOWER 70S ACROSS THE
REGION ALONG WITH SOME GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS. WINDS WILL DECREASE
THIS EVENING AROUND SUNSET AS LOW-LEVEL MIXING CEASES. WITH LIGHT
WINDS AND DRY AIR IN PLACE THROUGH MOST OF THE EVENING AND
OVERNIGHT HOURS...LOW TEMPERATURES WILL DROP BELOW FREEZING IN THE
HILL COUNTRY. WIND SPEEDS WILL THEN INCREASE EARLY WEDNESDAY
MORNING AS A COLD FRONT MOVES INTO THE REGION. COLD AIR ADVECTION
WILL LEAD TO BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES ON WEDNESDAY WITH HIGHS IN
THE LOWER 50S OVER THE HILL COUNTRY TO THE MID 60S ACROSS THE RIO
GRANDE PLAINS. LOW TEMPERATURES WILL FALL INTO THE MID 20S HILL
COUNTRY TO LOWER 30S COASTAL PLAINS WEDNESDAY NIGHT AS SURFACE
HIGH PRESSURE...CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS REMAIN IN PLACE.

&&

[b].LONG TERM (THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY)...
BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES CONTINUE ON THURSDAY AS SURFACE HIGH
PRESSURE DROPS SOUTHWARD INTO EAST TEXAS. SOUTHERLY FLOW IN THE
LOW-LEVELS RETURNS ON FRIDAY AND THIS WILL LEAD TO INCREASING
MOISTURE AND CLOUD COVER.FOR SATURDAY...THE OPERATIONAL GFS AND
ECMWF HAVE BOTH TRENDED TOWARD A MORE OPEN TROUGH INSTEAD OF A
CLOSED LOW MOVING ACROSS TEXAS ON SATURDAY.
RAIN CHANCES WILL BE
HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON WHETHER THIS TROUGH REMAINS OPEN OR DEVELOPS
INTO A CLOSED LOW. FOR NOW...WE WILL DECREASE RAIN CHANCES BY
ROUGHLY 10-20% OVER THE PREVIOUS FORECAST FOR THE FRIDAY NIGHT
THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT TIME FRAME. RAINFALL AMOUNTS ARE LOOKING
RATHER MEAGER...WITH TOTALS GENERALLY LESS THAN ONE-QUARTER INCH.

TEMPERATURES BEGIN TO REBOUND SUNDAY WITH HIGHS CLOSER TO
CLIMATOLOGICAL NORMALS. ANOTHER COLD FRONT WILL THEN MOVE INTO THE
REGION EITHER LATE SUNDAY OR MIDDAY MONDAY ACCORDING TO THE LATEST
OPERATIONAL ECMWF AND GFS. EXPECT BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES AND
DRY WEATHER FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK.


&&

.FIRE WEATHER...
THE RED FLAG WARNING FOR THE HILL COUNTRY...SOUTHERN EDWARDS
PLATEAU AND RIO GRANDE PLAINS WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM CST
THIS EVENING. THE LATEST SURFACE OBSERVATIONS SHOW WINDS ARE
STILL GUSTY OVER THE MENTIONED AREAS. IN ADDITION...RH/S ARE BELOW
OR VERY CLOSE TO 20%. WE HAVE HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT RH/S WILL
REMAIN LOW INTO EARLY THIS EVENING.

FARTHER EAST INTO THE I-35 CORRIDOR...NEAR CRITICAL RH/S HAVE BEEN
OBSERVED.
HOWEVER...SUSTAINED WIND SPEEDS HAVE BEEN BELOW RED FLAG
CRITERIA.

ON WEDNESDAY...NORTHERLY WINDS WILL INCREASE BEHIND A COLD FRONT.
DESPITE MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES...DRY AIR WILL LEAD TO MINIMUM
RH/S NEAR 20% ACROSS THE RIO GRANDE PLAINS AND SOUTHERN EDWARDS
PLATEAU. THIS COULD LEAD TO ELEVATED FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS FOR
THE MENTIONED AREAS TOMORROW AFTERNOON.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2975 Postby JDawg512 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:52 pm

Yea models have backed off... Ugh!!!

Well maybe we'll see a return to a closed low rather than an open trough as we get closer to Friday but that's just wishful thinking on my part.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2976 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:36 pm

What a crazy tornado outbreak today in dixie. Storms were lined up and many were spinning up massive tornado's. I'm glad we missed that show here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2977 Postby Brent » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:07 am

Ntxw wrote:We love Canada!

http://i67.tinypic.com/k4f05d.png


and the 0z CMC says what storm... barely even rains... :lol:

The 0z GFS is a disaster... I'm about ready to cancel this non-winter too... I'm sure the 70s and 80s at 384 hours will verify just because...
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2978 Postby orangeblood » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:11 am

Brent wrote:
Ntxw wrote:We love Canada!

http://i67.tinypic.com/k4f05d.png


and the 0z CMC says what storm... barely even rains... :lol:

The 0z GFS is a disaster... I'm about ready to cancel this non-winter too... I'm sure the 70s and 80s at 384 hours will verify just because...


Not looking promising....MJO is killing any benefits of the Strat Warming, which by the way appears to not be as stout as models were showing a few days ago.

Big differences showing up in long term ensembles regarding EPO/PNA, check out GFS ENS vs. Canadian ENS

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Differences will have drastic implications for how much cold air sticks around in week 2 to 3
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2979 Postby Ntxw » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:47 am

I'm starting to really despise this +PNA. It has been a thorn in several storms path and moisture return.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2980 Postby Portastorm » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:44 am

Ntxw wrote:I'm starting to really despise this +PNA. It has been a thorn in several storms path and moisture return.


The PNA took our winter away. :(
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