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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
ASCAT not showing a defined low but showing enough winds to support a TD. Also showed a 30kt barb.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
TheStormExpert wrote:Seems the La Niña is kicking in!
Probably yes, but I'd like to point out that it's rare to see an invest this far west in June, especially in inactive seasons.
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Don't want to get off topic... but it's not like this Nina is producing gorgeous storms for the Atlantic.
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Kingarabian wrote:Don't want to get off topic... but it's not like this Nina is producing gorgeous storms for the Atlantic.
It's only June 4th.
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Kingarabian wrote:Don't want to get off topic... but it's not like this Nina is producing gorgeous storms for the Atlantic.
well it's June 4 but the ATL seems to have returned to it's 2011-12 self.
As for this invest itself, it seems to be becoming less organized, although it's clearly trying.
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Kingarabian wrote:Don't want to get off topic... but it's not like this Nina is producing gorgeous storms for the Atlantic.
Lets compared apples to apples, compared to the last 2 strong El Ninos, the Atlantic has produced a lot more so far this season than this same time in '98 & '83.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
An area of low pressure located about 1000 miles southwest of the
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula is moving westward at
10 to 15 mph. Satellite data indicate that the circulation of the
system remains elongated, and the associated convection is not
signficantly better organized than yesterday. A tropical depression
could still form during the next couple of days before environmental
conditions become less conducive for development.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula is moving westward at
10 to 15 mph. Satellite data indicate that the circulation of the
system remains elongated, and the associated convection is not
signficantly better organized than yesterday. A tropical depression
could still form during the next couple of days before environmental
conditions become less conducive for development.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
Gonna be an interesting season. If the Atlantic is active then we can generally assume a quiet EPAC season. Looks like that's what is happening.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
ABPZ20 KNHC 050505
TWOEP
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1100 PM PDT SAT JUN 4 2016
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
An area of low pressure located about 1000 miles southwest of the
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula is moving
west-northwestward at around 10 mph. Shower and thunderstorm
activity has not become significantly better organized over the past
day or so, but a tropical depression could still form during the
next couple of days before environmental conditions become less
conducive for development.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent
Disorganized showers and thunderstorms are centered several hundred
miles south of Acapulco, Mexico. Some gradual development of this
system is possible during the next few days while it moves slowly
northeastward. Regardless of development, locally heavy rains are
likely later this weekend and early next week over portions of
southern Mexico and Guatemala.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent
$$
Forecaster Pasch
TWOEP
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1100 PM PDT SAT JUN 4 2016
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
An area of low pressure located about 1000 miles southwest of the
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula is moving
west-northwestward at around 10 mph. Shower and thunderstorm
activity has not become significantly better organized over the past
day or so, but a tropical depression could still form during the
next couple of days before environmental conditions become less
conducive for development.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent
Disorganized showers and thunderstorms are centered several hundred
miles south of Acapulco, Mexico. Some gradual development of this
system is possible during the next few days while it moves slowly
northeastward. Regardless of development, locally heavy rains are
likely later this weekend and early next week over portions of
southern Mexico and Guatemala.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent
$$
Forecaster Pasch
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
Models still giving 91E a reasonable chance to reach TS intensity.

5/3 split

5/3 split
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
stormwise wrote:Models still giving 91E a reasonable chance to reach TS intensity.
5/3 split
The crappy models are the only ones giving it a chance.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
Finished.
Shower activity is limited in association with an area of low
pressure located about 1100 miles southwest of the southern tip of
the Baja California peninsula. Development of this system appears
less likely while it moves west-northwestward into an area of
unfavorable environmental conditions.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
Shower activity is limited in association with an area of low
pressure located about 1100 miles southwest of the southern tip of
the Baja California peninsula. Development of this system appears
less likely while it moves west-northwestward into an area of
unfavorable environmental conditions.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
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I'm not sure there will be enough storms to make up for all those 80 and 90 percents. Weird system.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
An area of low pressure located about 1100 miles southwest of the
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula is producing
disorganized showers and thunderstorms. Development, if any, of this
system should be slow to occur during the next couple of days before
environmental conditions become less conducive.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula is producing
disorganized showers and thunderstorms. Development, if any, of this
system should be slow to occur during the next couple of days before
environmental conditions become less conducive.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
An area of low pressure located about 1200 miles southwest of the
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues to produce
disorganized showers and thunderstorms. Development, if any, of
this system should be slow to occur while the system moves westward
during the next day or two before environmental conditions become
less conducive.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues to produce
disorganized showers and thunderstorms. Development, if any, of
this system should be slow to occur while the system moves westward
during the next day or two before environmental conditions become
less conducive.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E

Low shear good upper-level divergence 30c sst and moisture and tilting west looks in a sweat spot atm.

tiny core.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
GFS, ECMWF, and UKMET all somehow develop this in about 5-7 days. By that time, the air should moisten and shear should stay low if the SHIPS output is correct.
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* EAST PACIFIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* INVEST EP912016 06/06/16 12 UTC *
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
V (KT) NO LAND 25 25 27 29 32 41 50 56 58 56 55 53 52
V (KT) LAND 25 25 27 29 32 41 50 56 58 56 55 53 52
V (KT) LGEM 25 25 25 26 27 30 34 39 43 43 42 42 43
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP
SHEAR (KT) 6 2 3 4 3 3 4 4 3 8 12 11 13
SHEAR ADJ (KT) 0 1 2 1 0 0 -2 0 3 1 -5 -4 0
SHEAR DIR 131 110 74 80 62 71 47 165 215 173 168 145 95
SST (C) 28.9 28.8 28.7 28.6 28.5 28.4 28.4 28.5 28.6 28.7 28.9 29.1 29.1
POT. INT. (KT) 152 151 150 148 147 144 144 146 147 149 152 154 154
200 MB T (C) -52.4 -52.3 -51.8 -52.0 -52.3 -52.1 -52.8 -52.8 -53.4 -53.3 -53.9 -53.7 -54.0
200 MB VXT (C) 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0
TH_E DEV (C) 8 8 8 8 8 8 7 7 7 6 6 6 5
700-500 MB RH 41 41 42 43 44 47 48 50 51 51 47 47 47
MODEL VTX (KT) 10 10 9 8 8 8 8 8 8 7 7 7 6
850 MB ENV VOR 45 39 31 24 19 22 19 31 39 53 66 84 93
200 MB DIV 37 29 30 21 11 43 37 37 44 34 20 38 58
700-850 TADV 0 -1 -3 -3 -2 0 1 3 5 4 1 3 3
LAND (KM) 1973 2033 2074 2103 2112 2128 2126 2092 2061 2031 1971 1913 1896
LAT (DEG N) 9.8 9.7 9.7 9.8 10.0 10.2 10.3 10.3 10.2 10.1 10.0 9.6 9.0
LONG(DEG W) 122.5 123.2 123.8 124.4 124.8 125.3 125.4 124.9 124.3 123.7 122.7 121.4 120.3
STM SPEED (KT) 7 6 6 5 4 2 1 3 3 4 6 6 6
HEAT CONTENT 42 37 35 33 29 26 26 28 31 33 39 59 46
FORECAST TRACK FROM TABM INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):255/ 7 CX,CY: -6/ -1
T-12 MAX WIND: 25 PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB): 534 (MEAN=586)
GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 50-200 KM RAD: 27.7 (MEAN=14.5)
% GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C 50-200 KM RAD: 50.0 (MEAN=65.0)
PRELIM RI PROB (DV .GE. 30 KT IN 24 HR): 1.0
INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
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SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 0. -1. -1. -2.
SST POTENTIAL 0. 0. 1. 2. 7. 13. 20. 25. 28. 30. 31. 31.
VERTICAL SHEAR MAG 1. 2. 3. 4. 6. 8. 10. 11. 11. 11. 11. 11.
VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
VERTICAL SHEAR DIR 0. 1. 2. 4. 7. 9. 9. 7. 5. 4. 3. 4.
PERSISTENCE 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1.
200/250 MB TEMP. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 0. 0. -1. -1. -2. -2.
THETA_E EXCESS 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 1. 1.
700-500 MB RH 0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -2. -3. -4. -4. -4. -5. -5.
MODEL VTX TENDENCY 0. 0. -1. -2. -2. -2. -2. -2. -3. -4. -3. -4.
850 MB ENV VORTICITY 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1.
200 MB DIVERGENCE 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. 0.
850-700 T ADVEC 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1.
ZONAL STORM MOTION 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
STEERING LEVEL PRES 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1.
DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -2. -2. -2.
GOES PREDICTORS 0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -3. -4. -4. -4. -4. -4. -5.
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
----------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL CHANGE 0. 2. 4. 7. 16. 25. 32. 33. 31. 30. 28. 27.
CURRENT MAX WIND (KT): 25. LAT, LON: 9.8 122.5
** 2015 E. Pacific RI INDEX EP912016 INVEST 06/06/16 12 UTC **
(SHIPS-RII PREDICTOR TABLE for 30 KT OR MOREMAXIMUM WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24-h)
Predictor Value RI Predictor Range Scaled Value(0-1) % Contribution
12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT): 0.0 -22.0 to 38.5 0.36 999.0
POT = MPI-VMAX (KT) : 124.6 40.3 to 144.5 0.81 999.0
HEAT CONTENT (KJ/cm2) : 35.2 0.0 to 75.9 0.46 999.0
STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP : 27.7 38.9 to 2.1 0.30 999.0
850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) : 3.7 18.9 to 1.4 0.87 999.0
MAXIMUM WIND (kt) : 25.0 22.5 to 132.0 0.07 999.0
D200 (10**7s-1) : 25.6 -11.0 to 135.3 0.25 999.0
BL DRY-AIR FLUX (w/m2): 213.6 638.0 to -68.2 0.60 999.0
2nd PC OF IR BR TEMP : 2.1 2.1 to -1.7 0.00 0.0
% AREA WITH TPW <45 mm: 0.0 81.4 to 0.0 1.00 999.0
SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean ( 6.3%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean (12.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean ( 8.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean ( 5.8%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean ( 4.1%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean ( 7.1%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean ( 5.9%)
Matrix of RI probabilities
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RI (kt / h) | 20/12 | 25/24 | 30/24 | 35/24 | 40/24 | 45/36 | 55/48
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SHIPS-RII: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%
Logistic: 2.6% 20.6% 9.9% 3.2% 1.2% 8.0% 5.8%
Bayesian: 0.0% 0.1% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%
Consensus: 0.9% 6.9% 3.3% 1.1% 0.4% 2.7% 1.9%
## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) EP912016 INVEST 06/06/16 12 UTC ##
## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=4 NFAIL=3 ##
## AHI= 0 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
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