EPAC: INVEST 91E
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
It's def close, despite the fact their isn't a lot of spiral banding. Don't see a well defined center yet either.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
The low pressure system located about 1200 miles southwest of the
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues to
move slowly westward. The associated showers and thunderstorms have
been persistent to the west of the center, but are not well
organized. However, some development of this system is possible
during the next day or two before environmental conditions become
less conducive.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues to
move slowly westward. The associated showers and thunderstorms have
been persistent to the west of the center, but are not well
organized. However, some development of this system is possible
during the next day or two before environmental conditions become
less conducive.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
Fascinating. a new E. Pacific area of disturbed weather not yet classified as a Tropical Depression but appearing as one, might well move into the Southern Gulf of Mexico within 48 hours. Meanwhile, in the Gulf we presently have a classified T.S. that looks far less organized than the unclassified East Pac system thats moving Northward.
Gonna be some whacky year!

Gonna be some whacky year!
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
Would be shocked to see this invest eventually being classified.
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Yellow Evan wrote:GFS, ECMWF, and UKMET all somehow develop this in about 5-7 days. By that time, the air should moisten and shear should stay low if the SHIPS output is correct.Code: Select all
* EAST PACIFIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* INVEST EP912016 06/06/16 12 UTC *
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
V (KT) NO LAND 25 25 27 29 32 41 50 56 58 56 55 53 52
V (KT) LAND 25 25 27 29 32 41 50 56 58 56 55 53 52
V (KT) LGEM 25 25 25 26 27 30 34 39 43 43 42 42 43
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP
SHEAR (KT) 6 2 3 4 3 3 4 4 3 8 12 11 13
SHEAR ADJ (KT) 0 1 2 1 0 0 -2 0 3 1 -5 -4 0
SHEAR DIR 131 110 74 80 62 71 47 165 215 173 168 145 95
SST (C) 28.9 28.8 28.7 28.6 28.5 28.4 28.4 28.5 28.6 28.7 28.9 29.1 29.1
POT. INT. (KT) 152 151 150 148 147 144 144 146 147 149 152 154 154
200 MB T (C) -52.4 -52.3 -51.8 -52.0 -52.3 -52.1 -52.8 -52.8 -53.4 -53.3 -53.9 -53.7 -54.0
200 MB VXT (C) 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0
TH_E DEV (C) 8 8 8 8 8 8 7 7 7 6 6 6 5
700-500 MB RH 41 41 42 43 44 47 48 50 51 51 47 47 47
MODEL VTX (KT) 10 10 9 8 8 8 8 8 8 7 7 7 6
850 MB ENV VOR 45 39 31 24 19 22 19 31 39 53 66 84 93
200 MB DIV 37 29 30 21 11 43 37 37 44 34 20 38 58
700-850 TADV 0 -1 -3 -3 -2 0 1 3 5 4 1 3 3
LAND (KM) 1973 2033 2074 2103 2112 2128 2126 2092 2061 2031 1971 1913 1896
LAT (DEG N) 9.8 9.7 9.7 9.8 10.0 10.2 10.3 10.3 10.2 10.1 10.0 9.6 9.0
LONG(DEG W) 122.5 123.2 123.8 124.4 124.8 125.3 125.4 124.9 124.3 123.7 122.7 121.4 120.3
STM SPEED (KT) 7 6 6 5 4 2 1 3 3 4 6 6 6
HEAT CONTENT 42 37 35 33 29 26 26 28 31 33 39 59 46
FORECAST TRACK FROM TABM INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):255/ 7 CX,CY: -6/ -1
T-12 MAX WIND: 25 PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB): 534 (MEAN=586)
GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 50-200 KM RAD: 27.7 (MEAN=14.5)
% GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C 50-200 KM RAD: 50.0 (MEAN=65.0)
PRELIM RI PROB (DV .GE. 30 KT IN 24 HR): 1.0
INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
----------------------------------------------------------
SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 0. -1. -1. -2.
SST POTENTIAL 0. 0. 1. 2. 7. 13. 20. 25. 28. 30. 31. 31.
VERTICAL SHEAR MAG 1. 2. 3. 4. 6. 8. 10. 11. 11. 11. 11. 11.
VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
VERTICAL SHEAR DIR 0. 1. 2. 4. 7. 9. 9. 7. 5. 4. 3. 4.
PERSISTENCE 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1.
200/250 MB TEMP. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 0. 0. -1. -1. -2. -2.
THETA_E EXCESS 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 1. 1.
700-500 MB RH 0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -2. -3. -4. -4. -4. -5. -5.
MODEL VTX TENDENCY 0. 0. -1. -2. -2. -2. -2. -2. -3. -4. -3. -4.
850 MB ENV VORTICITY 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1.
200 MB DIVERGENCE 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. 0.
850-700 T ADVEC 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1.
ZONAL STORM MOTION 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
STEERING LEVEL PRES 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1.
DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -2. -2. -2.
GOES PREDICTORS 0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -3. -4. -4. -4. -4. -4. -5.
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
----------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL CHANGE 0. 2. 4. 7. 16. 25. 32. 33. 31. 30. 28. 27.
CURRENT MAX WIND (KT): 25. LAT, LON: 9.8 122.5
** 2015 E. Pacific RI INDEX EP912016 INVEST 06/06/16 12 UTC **
(SHIPS-RII PREDICTOR TABLE for 30 KT OR MOREMAXIMUM WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24-h)
Predictor Value RI Predictor Range Scaled Value(0-1) % Contribution
12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT): 0.0 -22.0 to 38.5 0.36 999.0
POT = MPI-VMAX (KT) : 124.6 40.3 to 144.5 0.81 999.0
HEAT CONTENT (KJ/cm2) : 35.2 0.0 to 75.9 0.46 999.0
STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP : 27.7 38.9 to 2.1 0.30 999.0
850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) : 3.7 18.9 to 1.4 0.87 999.0
MAXIMUM WIND (kt) : 25.0 22.5 to 132.0 0.07 999.0
D200 (10**7s-1) : 25.6 -11.0 to 135.3 0.25 999.0
BL DRY-AIR FLUX (w/m2): 213.6 638.0 to -68.2 0.60 999.0
2nd PC OF IR BR TEMP : 2.1 2.1 to -1.7 0.00 0.0
% AREA WITH TPW <45 mm: 0.0 81.4 to 0.0 1.00 999.0
SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean ( 6.3%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean (12.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean ( 8.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean ( 5.8%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean ( 4.1%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean ( 7.1%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times sample mean ( 5.9%)
Matrix of RI probabilities
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RI (kt / h) | 20/12 | 25/24 | 30/24 | 35/24 | 40/24 | 45/36 | 55/48
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SHIPS-RII: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%
Logistic: 2.6% 20.6% 9.9% 3.2% 1.2% 8.0% 5.8%
Bayesian: 0.0% 0.1% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%
Consensus: 0.9% 6.9% 3.3% 1.1% 0.4% 2.7% 1.9%
## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) EP912016 INVEST 06/06/16 12 UTC ##
## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=4 NFAIL=3 ##
## AHI= 0 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##

Yes the shear is very low and the invest is also in a moist envelope.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
A low pressure system located about 1300 miles southwest of the
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues to
move slowly westward. The associated shower and thunderstorm
activity has been persistent, but satellite data indicate that the
low lacks a well-defined center. Some development of this system is
still possible during the next day or two before environmental
conditions become less conducive.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues to
move slowly westward. The associated shower and thunderstorm
activity has been persistent, but satellite data indicate that the
low lacks a well-defined center. Some development of this system is
still possible during the next day or two before environmental
conditions become less conducive.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
Yellow Evan wrote:I don't know what to make of this invest anymore.
Only way to really tell is with recon. I mean if Colin can have multiple swirls and still be considered a TS, then why can't this invest?
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E

looks a micro TC atm, arrowed where i think the center is.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... imated.gif

12z cmc deepens this, and also has it initialized @1006 mb atm.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
There has to be a LLC for it to pulse strong convection on and off like the way it's been doing the past week... right?
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
Looks similar to the split in the ATL where they went with the strong mesovort to the east of the coc.Giving up here unless it a full blown cane it wont get tagged.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
A low pressure system located about 1400 miles southwest of the
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues to produce
some showers and thunderstorms, though these are not substantially
more organized than observed yesterday. Some development of this
system is possible during the next day or two before environmental
conditions become less conducive.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues to produce
some showers and thunderstorms, though these are not substantially
more organized than observed yesterday. Some development of this
system is possible during the next day or two before environmental
conditions become less conducive.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
A low pressure system located about 1425 miles southwest of the
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues to produce
sporadic bursts of showers and thunderstorms, though these have
little organization. Some development of this system is possible,
though environmental conditions do not appear to be conducive beyond
the next day or two.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues to produce
sporadic bursts of showers and thunderstorms, though these have
little organization. Some development of this system is possible,
though environmental conditions do not appear to be conducive beyond
the next day or two.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
A low pressure area located about 1450 miles southwest of the
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues to produce
sporadic bursts of disorganized showers and thunderstorms. This
system has lost organization in the past 24 hours, and since
environmental conditions are forecast to become less conducive,
development is not anticipated.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...10 percent
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues to produce
sporadic bursts of disorganized showers and thunderstorms. This
system has lost organization in the past 24 hours, and since
environmental conditions are forecast to become less conducive,
development is not anticipated.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...10 percent
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E
A low pressure area located about 1450 miles southwest of the
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula is producing
sporadic bursts of disorganized showers and thunderstorms.
Environmental conditions have become less conducive, and
development of this system is unlikely.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...near 0 percent
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula is producing
sporadic bursts of disorganized showers and thunderstorms.
Environmental conditions have become less conducive, and
development of this system is unlikely.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...near 0 percent
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