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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

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ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
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* ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* INVEST AL942016 06/19/16 00 UTC *
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
V (KT) NO LAND 25 27 28 29 30 32 33 33 33 36 38 41 43
V (KT) LAND 25 27 28 29 30 32 28 27 27 32 34 37 39
V (KT) LGEM 25 26 27 27 26 25 23 26 26 31 33 35 37
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP
SHEAR (KT) 27 27 22 20 20 12 8 5 10 10 14 12 10
SHEAR ADJ (KT) -1 0 -2 -3 -2 0 -3 8 3 5 4 2 1
SHEAR DIR 243 254 253 252 256 307 311 359 15 47 55 67 76
SST (C) 29.4 29.6 29.6 29.5 29.3 28.9 28.5 28.5 28.3 26.3 24.1 24.1 24.1
POT. INT. (KT) 157 160 161 160 156 150 145 146 143 118 100 100 100
ADJ. POT. INT. 143 146 148 148 143 139 136 139 136 111 94 95 94
200 MB T (C) -52.9 -53.1 -53.6 -53.6 -53.4 -53.6 -53.1 -53.4 -53.3 -53.6 -53.2 -53.4 -53.5
200 MB VXT (C) -0.2 -0.2 -0.3 -0.2 -0.2 -0.2 -0.2 0.0 -0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
TH_E DEV (C) 10 9 7 8 10 8 12 9 11 5 5 2 1
700-500 MB RH 69 70 69 70 73 70 69 68 62 59 52 51 43
MODEL VTX (KT) 11 11 11 10 9 9 6 4 2 LOST LOST LOST LOST
850 MB ENV VOR 6 2 -22 -21 -6 -18 -14 -20 -24 -23 -36 -48 -46
200 MB DIV 39 27 11 0 19 16 22 -5 -4 -25 -17 -33 -9
700-850 TADV -3 -11 -11 0 3 -7 -5 0 -3 5 -3 3 3
LAND (KM) 88 144 180 254 264 103 -95 -367 -47 221 276 501 738
LAT (DEG N) 19.6 19.9 20.2 20.7 21.2 21.7 21.7 21.3 20.9 20.7 20.5 20.1 19.7
LONG(DEG W) 91.7 92.2 92.8 93.6 94.4 96.2 98.7 101.6 104.8 107.8 110.7 113.8 116.9
STM SPEED (KT) 6 6 8 9 8 10 13 15 15 14 14 15 14
HEAT CONTENT 29 22 20 24 26 28 7 0 18 0 0 0 0
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
tatertawt24 wrote:Nice blowup of convection but you can tell it's fighting shear to the west.
Convection has weakened significantly, but is this D-min?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
I think we'll start seeing some big convective blow up's shortly. As a footnote, HWRF seems to initialize 94L a full degree further north, though I can see that this might be a bit more "centered" within the broader low pressure center. Perhaps this is simply an expression of the near term motion of the already identified tight center seen earlier on vis. satellite. Additionally, this model seems to be particularly quick in moving the system briskly towards the WNW
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
the convection will likely dissipate tonight. However, I'd expect another blow up in the morning as the low continues to become better defined
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
Convection is decreasing and shear looks toxic, but I still expect this to develop, thanks to the curvature of the coastline.






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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
Zero convection tonight, but the NHC seems intent on naming something eventually. Could be called a depression before it moves into Mexico on Monday. No big deal unless it manages to build some squalls before then, resulting in some heavy rainfall for Mexico.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
Giving this a 20 % chance now. Down from 50 % earlier. Shear will probably win again like it has for so many years now. Good news for Mexico. They could use some good news after the beating their men's soccer team just took.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
Up to 70%.
1. A large low pressure system, centered over the central Bay of
Campeche about 300 miles east-southeast of Tuxpan, Mexico, is
producing widespread cloudiness and disorganized showers and
thunderstorms over much of the Bay of Campeche, southern Gulf of
Mexico, and the Yucatan peninsula. The low is moving westward to
west-northwestward at around 10 mph and is forecast to reach the
coast of eastern Mexico on Monday. Although upper-level winds are
only marginally conducive, a tropical depression is still expected
to form during the next day or so. An Air Force Reserve Hurricane
Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate the low this afternoon,
if necessary. For additional information on this system, see High
Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...70 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...70 percent
1. A large low pressure system, centered over the central Bay of
Campeche about 300 miles east-southeast of Tuxpan, Mexico, is
producing widespread cloudiness and disorganized showers and
thunderstorms over much of the Bay of Campeche, southern Gulf of
Mexico, and the Yucatan peninsula. The low is moving westward to
west-northwestward at around 10 mph and is forecast to reach the
coast of eastern Mexico on Monday. Although upper-level winds are
only marginally conducive, a tropical depression is still expected
to form during the next day or so. An Air Force Reserve Hurricane
Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate the low this afternoon,
if necessary. For additional information on this system, see High
Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...70 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...70 percent
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
I had a look at 51 EPS ens members for nada to a TD, EC 00Z deterministic also no TC. Likely just rain if the ens and 00z determistic verify.
Did not look at the GFS.
Did not look at the GFS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
Convection building this morning, shear is dropping. I agree with the NHC of this becoming at least a TD before moving inland. We have seen it time and time again systems form over the BOC with very little if any global model support.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SUN JUN 19 2016
For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:
A low pressure system located over the central Bay of Campeche
about 200 miles east of Tuxpan, Mexico is producing an area of
showers and thunderstorms over the southwestern Gulf of Mexico.
The low is moving westward to west-northwestward at around 10 mph
and is forecast to reach the coast of eastern Mexico on Monday.
Although upper-level winds are only marginally conducive, a tropical
depression is still likely to form later today or on Monday.
An Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to
investigate the low this afternoon, if necessary. Regardless of
whether or not a tropical cyclone develops, areas of heavy rain are
expected over portions of eastern Mexico tonight through Tuesday.
These rains could could cause life-threatening flash floods and
mud slides, especially in areas of high terrain. For additional
information on this system, see High Seas Forecasts issued by the
National Weather Service.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...70 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...70 percent
&&
High Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service are
available under AWIPS header NFDHSFAT1, WMO header FZNT01 KWBC, and
on the Web at http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/shtml/NFDHSFAT1.shtml.
$$
Forecaster Cangialosi
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SUN JUN 19 2016
For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:
A low pressure system located over the central Bay of Campeche
about 200 miles east of Tuxpan, Mexico is producing an area of
showers and thunderstorms over the southwestern Gulf of Mexico.
The low is moving westward to west-northwestward at around 10 mph
and is forecast to reach the coast of eastern Mexico on Monday.
Although upper-level winds are only marginally conducive, a tropical
depression is still likely to form later today or on Monday.
An Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to
investigate the low this afternoon, if necessary. Regardless of
whether or not a tropical cyclone develops, areas of heavy rain are
expected over portions of eastern Mexico tonight through Tuesday.
These rains could could cause life-threatening flash floods and
mud slides, especially in areas of high terrain. For additional
information on this system, see High Seas Forecasts issued by the
National Weather Service.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...70 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...70 percent
&&
High Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service are
available under AWIPS header NFDHSFAT1, WMO header FZNT01 KWBC, and
on the Web at http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/shtml/NFDHSFAT1.shtml.
$$
Forecaster Cangialosi
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
Up to 30kts at 12z Best Track.
AL, 94, 2016061912, , BEST, 0, 203N, 943W, 30, 1008, LO
AL, 94, 2016061912, , BEST, 0, 203N, 943W, 30, 1008, LO
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Recon
Recon cancelled?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Recon
tarheelprogrammer wrote:Recon cancelled?
Still scheduled to go this afternoon.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion
The odds of 94L becoming a TC are at least 80% in my opinion. My thinking is recon will confirm a TC has formed this afternoon, although the NHC could call it at 15Z, but I doubt they will. If convection can persist, I wouldn't be surprised if recon finds some TS force winds in the squalls. Even if not, the GFS suggests upper-level winds will lighten over the next few hours and TS formation could still occur prior to landfall in Mexico. Regardless, the main threat will be heavy rainfall, particularly in the mountainous regions. Hopefully, dissipation will occur quickly.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Recon
NDG wrote:tarheelprogrammer wrote:Recon cancelled?
Still scheduled to go this afternoon.
Okay thanks as always.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Recon
Plane will fly this afternoon with the departure at 15:30 UTC.
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
0945 AM EDT SUN 19 JUNE 2016
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 20/1100Z TO 21/1100Z JUNE 2016
TCPOD NUMBER.....16-024
I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
3. REMARK: THE LOW-LEVEL INVEST MISSION FOR 19/1800Z TASKED IN
TCPOD 16-023 WILL FLY TODAY AS SCHEDULED.
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
0945 AM EDT SUN 19 JUNE 2016
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 20/1100Z TO 21/1100Z JUNE 2016
TCPOD NUMBER.....16-024
I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
3. REMARK: THE LOW-LEVEL INVEST MISSION FOR 19/1800Z TASKED IN
TCPOD 16-023 WILL FLY TODAY AS SCHEDULED.
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