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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#161 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:39 am

Medtronic15 wrote:He we go #Invest97L

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Very interresting graphic. Any link my friend? We will appreciate :wink: Thanks :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#162 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:53 am

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SAT JUL 30 2016

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

A tropical wave located about 700 miles east of the Lesser Antilles
is moving westward at 25 to 30 mph. While the associated shower
activity has increased since yesterday, any additional development
should be slow to occur due to the rapid motion of the system.
Regardless of development, this system will likely bring showers and
gusty winds to portions of the Leeward Islands, Virgin Islands,
Puerto Rico, and the eastern Caribbean Sea beginning later today.
By the middle of next week, the disturbance is expected to be in the
western Caribbean Sea, where conditions could become more conducive
for development.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent



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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#163 Postby Medtronic15 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:58 am

Gustywind wrote:
Medtronic15 wrote:He we go #Invest97L

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Very interresting graphic. Any link my friend? We will appreciate :wink: Thanks :)


Link! :darrow: :D
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.php? ... _label=ADT
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#164 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:14 am

97L has everything working for it, very warm SSTs, an UL anticyclone on top of it, good UL divergence and surface convergence but like mentioned by the NHC it is moving too fast. It has to slow down some for it to develop a closed circulation and it may do so as it reaches the western Caribbean in a few days.
Models keep a very strong ridge to the north of it so at this time it looks like it is no threat to the US except for south TX still has to keep an eye on it, IMO.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#165 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:23 am

Just posting what the 06z HWRF run shows, not that I see this becoming so strong that quickly over the western Caribbean.
Two runs in row showing 97L to become at least a Cat 2 over the western Caribbean.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#166 Postby JaxGator » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:43 am

97L does look healthier this morning imo.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#167 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:50 am

12z position is where I marked the X.
AL, 97, 201607301145, 10, DVTS, CI, , 1480N, 5280W,

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#168 Postby South Texas Storms » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:00 am

If this develops (and I agree with the NHC's 40% chance right now), I could see this tracking anywhere from Veracruz up towards south Texas. Still plenty of time to watch it though.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#169 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:47 am

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
30/1145 UTC 14.8N 52.8W T1.0/1.0 97L
30/0545 UTC 14.4N 50.6W T1.0/1.0 97L
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#170 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:50 am

SHIPS finally sees the good UL environment on top of 97L to go along with it as it tracks westward across the Caribbean.

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* ATLANTIC     SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST          *
                    * IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE,       OHC AVAILABLE     *
                    *  INVEST      AL972016  07/30/16  12 UTC        *

TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120
V (KT) NO LAND    25    27    30    33    37    46    52    59    65    76    85    94    99
V (KT) LAND       25    27    30    33    37    46    44    48    56    68    76    52    35
V (KT) LGEM       25    26    28    31    33    39    37    44    46    54    62    46    33
Storm Type      TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP

SHEAR (KT)         1     2     4     8    13    11    12    11    11     2     5     9    13
SHEAR ADJ (KT)     1     0    -4    -3    -1    -1    -2     0     0     1     0    -6    -5
SHEAR DIR         48    59   232   274   315   293   282   271   292   199    53    67    50
SST (C)         27.6  27.9  28.3  28.4  28.7  28.8  28.8  29.5  29.5  29.6  29.7  30.1  30.2
POT. INT. (KT)   137   141   146   147   152   153   153   164   163   164   165   170   170
ADJ. POT. INT.   147   151   157   157   163   163   161   171   168   164   162   164   163
200 MB T (C)   -54.1 -53.6 -53.4 -53.6 -53.6 -53.1 -53.2 -52.7 -52.9 -52.0 -52.5 -51.8 -52.5
200 MB VXT (C)   0.0  -0.1   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.1   0.0   0.1   0.2   0.4   0.3   0.3
TH_E DEV (C)       9    10    10    11    11    12    12    13    12    11     8    10     7
700-500 MB RH     57    56    55    55    57    60    60    64    64    74    74    80    81
MODEL VTX (KT)     8     8     8     8    10    10     7     6     6    10    10    10     9
850 MB ENV VOR    70    68    64    53    47    60    60    71    60    91    69    81    61
200 MB DIV        32    39    17    22     6    38     8    31     4    52    27    72    64
700-850 TADV       8     4     5     4     1    -5    -4    -3   -12    -3    -4     0    -2
LAND (KM)       1021   884   714   616   488    48     0    -2   257   146    29   -39  -118
LAT (DEG N)     14.5  14.9  15.5  16.0  16.5  17.5  18.1  18.2  17.8  17.1  16.0  15.3  15.1
LONG(DEG W)     51.3  54.0  56.5  59.0  61.5  66.6  71.8  76.5  80.7  84.0  86.6  88.4  89.6
STM SPEED (KT)    26    26    25    25    25    25    24    21    19    15    11     7     6
HEAT CONTENT      36    55    33    43    11    88    21    28    81    42    30    89    79

  FORECAST TRACK FROM TABM      INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):275/ 25      CX,CY: -24/  2
  T-12 MAX WIND:  25            PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB):  494  (MEAN=618)
  GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV.  50-200 KM RAD:  27.3 (MEAN=14.5)
  % GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C    50-200 KM RAD:  45.0 (MEAN=65.0)
  PRELIM RI PROB (DV .GE. 30 KT IN 24 HR):            6.3
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#171 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:50 am

Medtronic15 wrote:
Gustywind wrote:
Medtronic15 wrote:He we go #Invest97L

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Very interresting graphic. Any link my friend? We will appreciate :wink: Thanks :)


Link! :darrow: :D
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.php? ... _label=ADT

:) OH thank you very much!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#172 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:01 am

Going up in intensity.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#173 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:30 am

From what I saw a week or so ago, some of the highest TCHP resides in the NW Carib. Sea just South of Cuba, if this is a TC by that time and UL winds are favorable there is little doubt in my mind we could see some rapid intensification if it tracks there. From there if it does indeed deepen rapidly you have to begin to wonder about the track and if this doesn't gain more latitude compared to the current models which show a weak TW or weak TC steered mostly in the lower level flow. Something to keep an eye on for sure!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#174 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:38 am

Dean4Storms wrote:From what I saw a week or so ago, some of the highest TCHP resides in the NW Carib. Sea just South of Cuba, if this is a TC by that time and UL winds are favorable there is little doubt in my mind we could see some rapid intensification if it tracks there. From there if it does indeed deepen rapidly you have to begin to wonder about the track and if this doesn't gain more latitude compared to the current models which show a weak TW or weak TC steered mostly in the lower level flow. Something to keep an eye on for sure!


Yeah, the HWRF may not be so crazy if indeed the UL anticyclone stays on top of it when it gets to the western Caribbean.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#175 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:47 am

Some lines of showers are already spreading Guadeloupe. Isolated rumbles of the thunder too. Weather is grey and sad.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#176 Postby Socalhurcnegirl227 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:06 am

NDG wrote:97L has everything working for it, very warm SSTs, an UL anticyclone on top of it, good UL divergence and surface convergence but like mentioned by the NHC it is moving too fast. It has to slow down some for it to develop a closed circulation and it may do so as it reaches the western Caribbean in a few days.
Models keep a very strong ridge to the north of it so at this time it looks like it is no threat to the US except for south TX still has to keep an eye on it, IMO.

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While its bad for development overall the fast moving pace is probably good for it because it is outrunning the heavy dry SAL expexted next week. It moved fast enough to get far away enough to not eat up the SAL next week. 96 moving at a snails pace compared to this one might have a problem. Most rooted for 96 but 97 has been the underdog
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#177 Postby JaxGator » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:11 am

It's weird that some of the mets that I've watched so far don't mention the anti-cyclone when it's clearly present over 97L on the shear charts.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#178 Postby JaxGator » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:16 am

And recon is not going in today. For now anyway.

WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1015 AM EDT SAT 30 JULY 2016
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 31/1100Z TO 01/1100Z AUGUST 2016
TCPOD NUMBER.....16-065

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#179 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:24 am

JaxGator wrote:And recon is not going in today. For now anyway.

WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1015 AM EDT SAT 30 JULY 2016
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 31/1100Z TO 01/1100Z AUGUST 2016
TCPOD NUMBER.....16-065

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.

With the foward speed it's moving recon would have a tough time keeping up with 97L! :lol:

 https://twitter.com/tropicaltidbits/status/759401751262924800


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#180 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:27 am

More passing lines of showers continue to spread on us. Seems that it's only a first round because of the most of the heavy patches of showers tstorms are scheluded for tonight and especially tommorow. Healthy 97L is approaching Guadeloupe, be sure about that. I will keep your informed as usual.
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