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ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1181 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:33 am

pressure down to 985 mb.. after reduction 997 ish
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1182 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:36 am

also definitely on a WNW track now. bringing farther from the coast. has about 12 hours left to do its thing.

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1183 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:43 am

I expect the NHC will change the forecast cone next advisory. It is going to be quite a bit further north of Roatan than expected.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1184 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:50 am

as new convection is beginning to develop on the feeder bands working their way in to the center (banding is becoming more pronounced) the mid level circ has become more better organized. Could see and eyewall close off from the new convective burst thats starting.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1185 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:58 am

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Earl follows forecast track, Belmopan & Belize City are the most populated areas in the cone, the rest is lightly populated countryside areas... Still going to be a bad day for some...
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1186 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:58 am

slightly weaker from this recon pass. Kind of expected this given the poor convective organization
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1187 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:59 am

Blown Away wrote:Image
Earl follows forecast track, Belmopan & Belize City are the most populated areas in the cone, the rest is lightly populated countryside areas... Still going to be a bad day for some...


pretty much where Dean made landfall..
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1188 Postby wflamholtz » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:00 am

Alyono wrote:slightly weaker from this recon pass. Kind of expected this given the poor convective organization


I think what's happening is there is a broadening of the pressure field, which is somewhat normal for developing systems when it gets vertically stacked
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1189 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:00 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
Blown Away wrote:Image
Earl follows forecast track, Belmopan & Belize City are the most populated areas in the cone, the rest is lightly populated countryside areas... Still going to be a bad day for some...


pretty much where Dean made landfall..


Dean made landfall north of Chetumal Mexico and hit next to nobody
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Re: ATL: EARL - Recon

#1190 Postby TheEuropean » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:02 am

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URNT12 KNHC 031550
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL052016
A. 03/15:29:20Z
B. 16 deg 49 min N
085 deg 03 min W
C. 700 mb 3036 m
D. 42 kt
E. 126 deg 15 nm
F. 161 deg 59 kt
G. 104 deg 39 nm
H. 991 mb
I. 10 C / 3123 m
J. 16 C / 3045 m
K. NA / NA
L. OPEN NW
M. C16
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 0.02 nm
P. AF309 0505A EARL OB 10
MAX FL WIND 59 KT 104 / 39 NM 15:17:30Z
CNTR DROPSONDE SFC WIND 120 / 11 KT
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1191 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:02 am

some dry air as per the dropsonde
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1192 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:05 am

Still no NE quad sampling .. they are doing another NW to SE
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1193 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:12 am

since the convection faded from the last burst the center has become visible. Strong banding building from Se to nw quads. this burst should wrap all the way around potentially closing the eye and could see significant deepening.

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1194 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:22 am

Earl has much of its circulation envelope interacting with land and RI is a distinct possibility... Same time we can't get a decent storm in the wide open MDR region... :lol:
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1195 Postby abajan » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:37 am

Blown Away wrote:http://i67.tinypic.com/2illxfb.jpg
Earl follows forecast track, Belmopan & Belize City are the most populated areas in the cone, the rest is lightly populated countryside areas... Still going to be a bad day for some...

Thankfully, those in Belize City won't likely be taking the situation lightly, because many of them still have vivid memories of a monster of a hurricane named Hattie which almost destroyed the city 55 years ago. It was the reason for establishing Belmopan as the new capital of Belize.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1196 Postby centuryv58 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:38 am

Blown Away wrote:Earl has much of its circulation envelope interacting with land and RI is a distinct possibility... Same time we can't get a decent storm in the wide open MDR region... :lol:


But this came from the MDR, didn't it??
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1197 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:47 am

centuryv58 wrote:
Blown Away wrote:Earl has much of its circulation envelope interacting with land and RI is a distinct possibility... Same time we can't get a decent storm in the wide open MDR region... :lol:


But this came from the MDR, didn't it??


I guess I needed to specify a TS or hurricane...

Abajan, thx for the history backup!! :notworthy: :sun:
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1198 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:02 pm

30 frame visible

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=14&lon=-86&info=vis&zoom=1&width=1000&height=725&quality=90&type=Animation&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=30&mapcolor=gray

I'm not sure why anything was expected to develop east of the Caribbean before mid August in a year forecast to be near normal. :)
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1199 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:08 pm

winds in the northeast quad do not even support 60 kts

This is a 50-55 kt tropical storm
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1200 Postby Hammy » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:09 pm

Alyono wrote:winds in the northeast quad do not even support 60 kts

This is a 50-55 kt tropical storm


Is the land interaction causing problems with organizing?
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