2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1221 Postby Siker » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:06 pm

GFS has at least something:

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1222 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:40 pm

12Z UKMET looks a little more enthusiastic with something along the northern Gulf coast:

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1223 Postby Hammy » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:56 pm

Euro seems to show something at 168 hours as well, so hints of -something- possibly developing in the Gulf in about a week.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1224 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:03 pm

Weatherbell Euro shows what looks like a strung out low pressure system forming and then moving Inland fairly quickly.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1225 Postby Siker » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:36 pm

Going off Euro simulated satellite from Weatherbell, it looks like that system forms from an interaction between a decaying front and 96L.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1226 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:04 pm

18z GFS has two tropical cyclones forming from an old frontal boundary off the SE U.S. Coast starting around 204hrs.

Also there is another strong tropical wave that develops in the Tropical Atlantic @ 240hrs.

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1227 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:15 pm

Wow.....12z ECM showing up to 48kt 10m wind gusts over the NE Gulf with this. Something to watch!
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1228 Postby La Breeze » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:29 pm

Hammy wrote:Euro seems to show something at 168 hours as well, so hints of -something- possibly developing in the Gulf in about a week.

Would this be a "home-grown" system or something from the Atlantic that would have moved in?
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1229 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:00 am

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Hammy wrote:Euro seems to show something at 168 hours as well, so hints of -something- possibly developing in the Gulf in about a week.

Would this be a "home-grown" system or something from the Atlantic that would have moved in?


It's a trough splitting that lies across the SE USA and then backs down into the Gulf.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1230 Postby wxman57 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:55 am

00Z Euro indicates 15-18" of rain offshore SE Louisiana next Tue-Thu. Heavy squalls out over very warm water will need to be watched closely.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1231 Postby OuterBanker » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:07 am

Sure enough. Looks like 20 + inches in NOLA. Looks more like a lingering td. Also interesting is the 20+ inch area just off Tampa/St Pete in 144. I'ts the Euro.

06 GFS, nada.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1232 Postby Steve » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:15 am

OuterBanker wrote:Sure enough. Looks like 20 + inches in NOLA. Looks more like a lingering td. Also interesting is the 20+ inch area just off Tampa/St Pete in 144. I'ts the Euro.

06 GFS, nada.


While I'm not a big Euro Hugger, I always take notice when it's got me under a gun. I don't have access to higher end ECMWF runs, but if what I'm seeing in the low res model is right, a piece of frontal or trough energy gets left behind around coastal South Carolina and backs off Southwest (as they do in La Nina seasons) while an intersection or tropical surge (possibly from 96L?) moves in from the ESE. I don't know if it's just a surface low/rainmaker type system or if it's tropical, but that's a lot of rainfall. Also, other than general pulses from the SW Atlantic Ridge and tropical waves moving across the basin, there usually aren't strong steering currents earlier in the season - at least the ones that force systems to lift up and out into the westerlies. While it's got 7 or 8 days to refine the solution, WPAC teleconnects strong ridging off the SE US Coast in the 7-10 day range as well.

Edit to say that yeah, it looks like the timing would be about right for early next week from the deep tropical surge associated with ex-96L per the Mimic (MIMIC - SSMI/SSMIS/TMI derived Total Precipitable water) run.

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1233 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:20 pm

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Long range 12z GFS has a nice low screaming across the Atlantic...
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1234 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:50 pm

Wow.......12z ECM has a low developing next week right along the FL Panhandle Coast and then slowly moves it northward into South Alabama. Showing 10M Gusts up to 65kts along the Panhandle Coasts by next Saturday at 240 hours.

Also shows total rainfall by then of 40.1" of rain!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1235 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:53 pm

12Z UKMET has dropped development of the northern Gulf system but it still shows some unsettled weather over the northern Gulf developing about 5-6 days from now
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1236 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:55 pm

While its probably pure fantasy the low on the 12zGFS at 384 if that pattern remains would be quite worrisome as it would continue WNW towards the Southeastern US beyond that so we'll see if its still there in 5 days on the model before giving it some thought

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1237 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:55 pm

Euro develops the low center inland. Will have to be watched, no model is that accurate this far out.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1238 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:35 pm

tolakram wrote:Euro develops the low center inland. Will have to be watched, no model is that accurate this far out.


Actually @216 hrs has a low closed off just offshore Destin, FL then it moves just inland and showing a 1003mb pressure as it drifts northward into South Alabama.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1239 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:17 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:
tolakram wrote:Euro develops the low center inland. Will have to be watched, no model is that accurate this far out.


Actually @216 hrs has a low closed off just offshore Destin, FL then it moves just inland and showing a 1003mb pressure as it drifts northward into South Alabama.


the 18zGFS seems to develop this feature sooner but who knows whats going to happen so its a wait and see situation

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1240 Postby Frank2 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:51 am

Latest 10-day GFS shows a feature not seen all summer - a trough pattern developing off the US EC, the high displaced well to the northeast...
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