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Re: ATL: EARL - Recon

#1341 Postby TheAustinMan » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:35 pm

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A.  03/2335Z 
B.  17 deg 21 min N  086 deg 45 min W
C.  700 mb 2980 m
D. 56 kt
E. 102 deg 16 nm 
F. 141 deg 64 kt 
G. 078 deg 32 nm 
H. 986 mb 
L. CLOSED 
M. C20
P.  MAX OUTBOUND AND MAX FL WIND 72 KT 2342Z. 
CTR DROP WND 20 KT. 
RAGGED EYE
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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1342 Postby NotoSans » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:36 pm

Center dropsonde supports a 984. And flight-level winds of 72 kt support a hurricane as well.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1343 Postby Hammy » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:45 pm

NotoSans wrote:Center dropsonde supports a 984. And flight-level winds of 72 kt support a hurricane as well.


Will they be there until landfall? It would be interesting for once to get a clearer idea of landfall intensity here as often strengthening systems come ashore between flights.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1344 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:49 pm

I manually added the vortex message into my recon system.



URNT12 KNHC 040029
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL052016
A. 03/2335Z
B. 17 deg 21 min N
086 deg 45 min W
C. 700 mb 2980 m
D. 56 kt
E. 102 deg 16 nm
F. 141 deg 64 kt
G. 078 deg 32 nm
H. 986 mb
I. NA
J. NA
K. NA
L. CLOSED
M. C20
N. NA
O. NA
P. AF301 0705A EARL OB 99
MAX OUTBOUND AND MAX FL WIND 72 KT 2342Z.
CTR DROP WND 20 KT.
RAGGED EYE
THIS VORTEX HAS BEEN MANUALLY CONSTRUCTED BY TROPICAL GLOBE FROM NHC TWITTER FEED



Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 4th day of the month at 0:29Z
Agency: United States Air Force
Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF96-5301
Storm Number & Year: 05 in 2016
Storm Name: Earl (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 7
Observation Number: 99
A. Time of Center Fix: 3rd day of the month at 23:35Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 17°21'N 86°45'W (17.35N 86.75W)
B. Center Fix Location: 96 statute miles (155 km) to the E (96°) from Belize City, Belize.
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 2,980m (9,777ft) at 700mb
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 56kts (~ 64.4mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 16 nautical miles (18 statute miles) to the ESE (102°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 141° at 64kts (From the SE at ~ 73.6mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 32 nautical miles (37 statute miles) to the ENE (78°) of center fix
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 986mb (29.12 inHg)
I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: Not Available
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: Not Available
K. Dewpoint Temp & Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
L. Eye Character: Closed
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 20 nautical miles (23 statute miles)

Remarks Section - Remarks That Were Decoded...
Maximum Outbound and Flight Level Wind: 72kts (~ 82.9mph) at 23:42Z

Remarks Section - Additional Remarks...
CTR DROP WND 20 KT.
RAGGED EYE
THIS VORTEX HAS BEEN MANUALLY CONSTRUCTED BY TROPICAL GLOBE FROM NHC TWITTER FEED
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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1345 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:50 pm

eyewall getting better organized.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1346 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:59 pm

could be similar to richard in terms of impact in belize city
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Re: ATL: EARL - Models

#1347 Postby ronjon » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:00 pm

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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1348 Postby NotoSans » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:03 pm

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Looks much better on microwave now.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1349 Postby HurricaneRyan » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:16 pm

This strengthened more than I thought it would.

Reminds me of Ernesto and Richard for sure.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1350 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:18 pm

HurricaneRyan wrote:This strengthened more than I thought it would.

Reminds me of Ernesto and Richard for sure.


Here's the radar from Ernesto. Ernesto was a bit further north, but somewhat similar. Earl has a wider eye for sure.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1351 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:19 pm

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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1352 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:21 pm

i think only got few hour to stay alive very close to land
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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1353 Postby Hammy » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:23 pm

SFMR still only indicates 55kt system--have there been any actual hurricane winds recorded at the surface since the first pass earlier this afternoon?
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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1354 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:32 pm

had this had 12 to 24 more hours it would likely have been a different story..
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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1355 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:37 pm

we have recon back up.. going to organize right up to landfall.. looking better and better every frame

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Re: ATL: EARL - Models

#1356 Postby Rgv20 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:41 pm

This is 2 of the 51 12zECMWF Ensembles which take Earl into NE Mexico by day 4... :lol:

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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1357 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:41 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:had this had 12 to 24 more hours it would likely have been a different story..

Agreed, thankfully it will run out of time
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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1358 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:41 pm

What do we have for observations?
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Re: ATL: EARL - Recon

#1359 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:45 pm

Through 8:37pm CDT:

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Re: ATL: EARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1360 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:52 pm

recon finding a lot of steady hurricane force winds this pass in the NE quad nearly 2 whole sets of data. next set will be center pass.. 68kt well away from center.

64kt at 994mb pressures will probably be down to 980 FL
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