Gulf Coast Disturbance (early August)

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#181 Postby TheAustinMan » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:51 pm

mobilebay wrote:Where can you go to get the model runs for 98L?


Until the disturbance in the NE Gulf of Mexico is declared as an investigative area, statistical guidance won't initiate on the system. That said the basin-wide version of the HWRF (which appears to be experimental) has the disturbance's vorticity signature moving into Florida, emerging into the Atlantic and curving into South Carolina without much development.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#182 Postby floridasun78 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:52 pm

i have bad link to invest site do anyone have it?
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#183 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:53 pm

These situations generally confuse me... when would this be considered a depression? Assuming there are winds from all directions, and lower pressure, this seems to be one. I don't think there is a required wind speed needed to be classified as a depression...but I seem to remember that an area needs to persist for at least 24 hours or something.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#184 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:57 pm

Emmett_Brown wrote:These situations generally confuse me... when would this be considered a depression? Assuming there are winds from all directions, and lower pressure, this seems to be one. I don't think there is a required wind speed needed to be classified as a depression...but I seem to remember that an area needs to persist for at least 24 hours or something.


Yeah there is no wind requirement. by definition this would be a depression once a closed well defined surface circ is there ( which it appears to be from all data I have). NHC has to weigh in a lot of things before upgrading. in this case given the forecast of it moving ashore by tomorrow they most likely wont do anything.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#185 Postby PTrackerLA » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:58 pm

Biblical rains still forecasted by the 12z Euro. Looks like a 49.9" precipitation maxima by day 10 near Panama City. :double:
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#186 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:59 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Emmett_Brown wrote:These situations generally confuse me... when would this be considered a depression? Assuming there are winds from all directions, and lower pressure, this seems to be one. I don't think there is a required wind speed needed to be classified as a depression...but I seem to remember that an area needs to persist for at least 24 hours or something.


Yeah there is no wind requirement. by definition this would be a depression once a closed well defined surface circ is there ( which it appears to be from all data I have). NHC has to weigh in a lot of things before upgrading. in this case given the forecast of it moving ashore by tomorrow they most likely wont do anything.


Thanks Aric. I guess one way for this to be classified is if we start observing TS winds or something... that would force their hand :)
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#187 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:00 pm

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#188 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:00 pm

Interestingly pressures have begun to fall quite rapidly at my house in Panama City. From 1015mb to 1013 in past 3hrs.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#189 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:03 pm

Given the data and storm motions per radar. a center is quite likely in here somewhere and organizing pretty steadily. And stationary or drifting south..

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#190 Postby tailgater » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:06 pm

Too elongated IMHO for depression status and not much in the way of a true east wind field
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#191 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:08 pm

tailgater wrote:Too elongated IMHO for depression status and not much in the way of a true east wind field


yeah its not quite well defined enough at the moment.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#192 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:08 pm

Low pressure area about 50 miles just offshore of Cedar Key and about 60 miles southeast of Apalachicola.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#193 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:09 pm

Pressures at buoy 42036 have been falling and they have 15kt winds out of the WSW

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42036

That buoy is very close to where the link bamajammer4eva posted shows a center

https://www.windyty.com/?namConus,gust,29.198,-83.897,8
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#194 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:17 pm

Around 5 or 6PM the surface pressures should be down to 29.92 at buoy 42036.
West wind currently but if the system drops further south we should see a shift.
Its a good vantage point.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#195 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:23 pm

This is a good radar presentation of storm movement. When it is looping it does not look like the low is making anymore progress eastward.

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#196 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:25 pm

That is some biblical rain heading to Tampa
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#197 Postby stormhunter7 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:27 pm

NRL Tropical Cyclone Page is changing right now. lets see if they post invest
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#198 Postby stormhunter7 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:43 pm

Well the ATCF data doesnt show true invest yet, just looks like they turned on floater for area.

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#199 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:45 pm

Well on the way imo.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#200 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:53 pm

its in very light steering currents. maybe a slight south drift looking at current setup large surface and mid level ridge to its west
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