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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2101 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:44 pm

Weatherbell: 937mb just south of Mobile (186h)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2102 Postby PTrackerLA » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:45 pm

12 EURO Hi-res has 932mb just before landfall at Mobile Bay 186hrs. :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2103 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:45 pm

931mb at 186.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2104 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:46 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2105 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:47 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:trend is west........still a week out, could we keep seeing the trend west who knows but that's not good


Indeed. This could go anywhere. Hopefully, it would stay a fish. :) Still a long time for all factors to be worked out, I would think.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2106 Postby centuryv58 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:48 pm

Tireman4 wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:trend is west........still a week out, could we keep seeing the trend west who knows but that's not good


Indeed. This could go anywhere. Hopefully, it would stay a fish. :) Still a long time for all factors to be worked out, I would think.


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Can't see any of that, sorry to say. The evidence is too strong for west.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2107 Postby BigB0882 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:49 pm

Two questions:

1. Does the Euro move the ridge off more slowly than previous runs? This didn't seem to hook to the NNE and NE as sharply as it did in previous runs.

2. That tweet says the Euro is known for having the ridges too strong. I thought it was known for the opposite, for often breaking down ridges too quickly. What is it?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2108 Postby Alyono » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:49 pm

final landfall between 935mb and 940mb
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2109 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:52 pm

In my opinion if in 24hrs. the Euro is still with a same/similar solution into S. FL I think it will be time to start paying much more attention.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2110 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:52 pm

In all seriousness....the EURO is locked on this idea...maybe not this strong every run, but its locked into a pretty good idea this is going to develop and the strength could be significant. I think this is 3-5 runs in a row of developing it?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2111 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:52 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2112 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:53 pm

Alyono wrote:final landfall between 935mb and 940mb


In your estimation, ballpark figure, what would the windspeed be at that point?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2113 Postby Weatherboy1 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:53 pm

centuryv58 wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:trend is west........still a week out, could we keep seeing the trend west who knows but that's not good


Indeed. This could go anywhere. Hopefully, it would stay a fish. :) Still a long time for all factors to be worked out, I would think.


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Can't see any of that, sorry to say. The evidence is too strong for west.


Yes, I agree that this is looking much less "fish-worthy" with each passing model run. Unlike with many, many other storms over the past few seasons -- where the models were indicating ridging 7-8 days out, but giving up on that idea as the much more reliable <5 day time frame approached -- the models are all GENERALLY converging on a strong ridge scenario. The particulars of exactly where 99 lands, and how strong she is when she does so, still need to be worked out. But the fish scenario looks much less likely to me.

As for strength, that's the problem. This could be a few thunderstorms, per GFS, or a low-to-mid-grade hurricane, per various runs of models like the HWRF over the past few days. Too bad intensity is the hardest for models to predict, especially with the remains of Fiona sticking around like an ex-wife that won't leave! LOL
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2114 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:55 pm

Next frame has it already up in the NC/Tennessee mountains, still strong enough to do some damage to places in Alabama and even Atlanta will be on the dirty side of that storm. Hope this one does not verify.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2115 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:55 pm

this is about 400 miles difference from the euro last run
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2116 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:57 pm

Weatherboy1 wrote:
centuryv58 wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:
Indeed. This could go anywhere. Hopefully, it would stay a fish. :) Still a long time for all factors to be worked out, I would think.



Can't see any of that, sorry to say. The evidence is too strong for west.


Yes, I agree that this is looking much less "fish-worthy" with each passing model run. Unlike with many, many other storms over the past few seasons -- where the models were indicating ridging 7-8 days out, but giving up on that idea as the much more reliable <5 day time frame approached -- the models are all GENERALLY converging on a strong ridge scenario. The particulars of exactly where 99 lands, and how strong she is when she does so, still need to be worked out. But the fish scenario looks much less likely to me.

As for strength, that's the problem. This could be a few thunderstorms, per GFS, or a low-to-mid-grade hurricane, per various runs of models like the HWRF over the past few days. Too bad intensity is the hardest for models to predict, especially with the remains of Fiona sticking around like an ex-wife that won't leave! LOL


Yeah, I was being hopefully optimistic about being a fish storm. :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2117 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:58 pm

Well so much for the East shift that was being forecast.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2118 Postby LarryWx » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:59 pm

I'm still wary of the Euro often strengthening TC's too much since 2010, especially above 25N. Caution advised. Ironically, Fiona of 2010 was one of the first storms that was a victim of this over bullishness.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2119 Postby StormHunter72 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:02 pm

Scary since the margin of error days out is great. west coast of florida Sarasota north to big bend west to la is under the gun at this point.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#2120 Postby SeGaBob » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:03 pm

Too far west for me to get anything that run of the euro. We need the rain bad...
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