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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1861 Postby Blinhart » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:52 pm

RL3AO wrote:The dominant system is north of PR. I think most of that convection near Hispaniola is mostly upslope caused.


OK, but it is just deceiving the way it looks.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1862 Postby HurriGuy » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:53 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:convection for the first time develpoing over the LLC.. that little bubble on the NW side of the main convective ball..

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you beat me to it
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1863 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:53 pm

RL3AO wrote:The dominant system is north of PR. I think most of that convection near Hispaniola is mostly upslope caused.


Yep, I agree. And the convection over the DR is weakening right now as the convection north of PR is blossoming.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1864 Postby SeGaBob » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:55 pm

When is the next recon? I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere.
Edit: never mind I found out.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1865 Postby chaser1 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:56 pm

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Bocadude85 wrote:Are we sure that the vort over Hispaniola isn't actually the dominant feature? Following the 0Z HWRF it has a TS heading www then at hour 18 it focuses in on a low over Haiti then starts tracking that low at hour 27..


Focus on the satellite. Don't focus on the models. They are complete garbage right now. Remember that models
change randomly for different variables that come into play that WE don't see. Satellite imagery shows us what's going on right now. If convection wanes after DMAX then it's going to struggle to intensify.


To be honest, it was my focusing on the satellite and looking at the final daylight pics which personally led me to consider the feature over Hispanola to quite possibly be the dominant feature.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1866 Postby chaser1 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:00 am

If this bursting of convection continues over what was the LLC moving NNW earlier today, than here we go again with "what should probably shake out" as a finally consolidating COC (final last words haha)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1867 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:03 am

That convection blow up is about to hit the mountains.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1868 Postby chaser1 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:10 am

Not only do I find the resolution on the NASA 1KM as being higher, but the pic also seems to update faster too. Here's the link for one of the different resolutions one could find there (either for still or loop) http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/GOES0 ... RPAaNl.jpg

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1869 Postby chaser1 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:11 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1870 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:12 am

chaser1 wrote:Not only do I find the resolution on the NASA 1KM as being higher, but the pic also seems to update faster too. Here's the link for one of the different resolutions one could find there (either for still or loop) http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/GOES0 ... RPAaNl.jpg

Here's the regular link to the main NASA Satellite site


for visible yeah. that and it can go into rapid scan. but RGB still is overall better.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1871 Postby chaser1 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:14 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
chaser1 wrote:Not only do I find the resolution on the NASA 1KM as being higher, but the pic also seems to update faster too. Here's the link for one of the different resolutions one could find there (either for still or loop) http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/GOES0 ... RPAaNl.jpg

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for visible yeah. that and it can go into rapid scan. but RGB still is overall better.


Well true. I tend to go back and forth for night time between the RGB and the Shortwave IR (sometimes the Shortwave can get over exposed too however)
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#1872 Postby SeGaBob » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:28 am

I bet the TWO will be the same old thing at 2am.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1873 Postby psyclone » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:34 am

I'm really going to be interested to see if they lower the chances.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1874 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:36 am

psyclone wrote:I'm really going to be interested to see if they lower the chances.

probably the same..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1875 Postby chaser1 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:37 am

Taking a last look at the satellite this eve. and I just cant help but have my eyes drawn toward that mid level vorticity south of P.R. that just looks like it wants to lumber on to the west. If the mid level energy there were to not eventually slide north and over the appearant LLC north of the Mona Passage, than its really hard to say which feature the EURO will continue to latch onto. I'll say this though - if the mid level low has worked down to 850mb or lower, than its not unreasonable that this might continue to steer the LLC on a pretty fixed WNW trek along and just north of the islands. Conversly, if the EURO were to advertise the LLC a bit more poleward and strengthening while moving toward the Central Bahamas (as it was in numerous prior runs), well than that may very well play out. This would essentially be though, where the primary discrepency between the EURO and GFS with how each has been trying to handle the storm. Basically comes down to how much relevance that mid level low south of P.R. will continue to be (and which model most accuratly ignored or took that feature into consideration).
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1876 Postby SeGaBob » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:38 am

Yeah it's the same.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1877 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:42 am

TWO the same, waiting for the next recon I bet
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1878 Postby LoveWeather12 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:43 am

I live in Fl. I'm wondering, when we will know for sure where it's going and what intensity it will be? I'm getting annoyed and getting to the point of stop preparing for it
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1879 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:51 am

LoveWeather12 wrote:I live in Fl. I'm wondering, when we will know for sure where it's going and what intensity it will be? I'm getting annoyed and getting to the point of stop preparing for it

That is a terrible way to think about it. You SHOULD always prepare even if it doesn't look like anything right now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1880 Postby fci » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:52 am

LoveWeather12 wrote:I live in Fl. I'm wondering, when we will know for sure where it's going and what intensity it will be? I'm getting annoyed and getting to the point of stop preparing for it


By Friday or early Saturday.
Can't get annoyed since no one, except for Mother Nature; can be blamed and that's pretty fruitless.
If you don't put yourself in a position to "prepare" then the only one you are punishing is yourself.
Mother Nature really doesn't care. :grr:
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