Tropical Wave about to emerge West Africa (Is Invest 92L)

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Tropical Wave about to emerge West Africa (Is Invest 92L)

#1 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:52 am

This wave is the one the models develop after it emerges Africa on August 30-31.Let's see how it evolves down the road.

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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#2 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:00 am

06z GFS has a bonifide Hurricane close to Bermuda but is long range so track can change a lot after 240 hours.The ECMWF and UKMET models also develop.

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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#3 Postby Siker » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:06 am

It's incredible how far west some GFS and Euro ensembles take this despite the latitude it will come off at. Some go all the way into the Gulf.
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#4 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:25 pm

Fwiw, the 12z Gfs has a wave coming off Africa at 120 and moves it almost due west dor days and days and ends up a few hundred miles off the SE coast lol at 384hr. Dont shoot the messenger lol

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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#5 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:04 pm

12z Euro has the same track as GFS but a weaker version.

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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#6 Postby LarryWx » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:17 pm

As Luis just posted, the 12Z Euro has this as a TD or weak TS moving almost due west near 15 mph along 19N and reaching near 55W on day 10. Here's the 10 day map of North America:

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... mer_11.png

This map shows rather stable west Atlantic ridging to its north and NW. This ridging looks stable as opposed to transient to me because of the near stationary very strong (600+ dm) 500 mb ridge centered near 40N, 150W (about halfway between Alaska and Hawaii). This is leading to rather stable troughing in the Rockies and ridging along the CONUS east coast eastward into the Atlantic. IF this were to end up being an accurate prog for day 10, then imo this TC would likely threaten the CONUS east coast ~5-7 days later or ~15-17 days from now or ~9/10-12 fwiw.

So, if I were a betting man, I'd say look out for around 9/10-2 for what is now Pouch 25L to possibly get close to the CONUS east coast.
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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#7 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:21 pm

The latest Euro ensembles continue to insist on this being a threat to the US East coast by the second week in September. Something to keep an eye on it's been many years since we've had a long tracker like that.
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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#8 Postby LarryWx » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:53 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:The latest Euro ensembles continue to insist on this being a threat to the US East coast by the second week in September. Something to keep an eye on it's been many years since we've had a long tracker like that.


The last long tracking H that made it to 75W was way back in 2010: Earl

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atl ... /track.gif

The last time we went 6+ years without a longtracking H was way back in the1970's.
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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#9 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:14 pm

Is very high in latitude emerging West Africa on August 31rst in the 18z GFS.Let's see how far west it goes on this run.

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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#10 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:30 pm

Makes me wonder if the NHC will put it in the TWO at 8 pm?
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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#11 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:33 pm

Hmmm models depict quite the monster. I'm skeptical however because of two possible key factors -

1.) The high latitude which the system emerges from Africa.

2.) I thought shear was projected to be a big negative for develop, along with a potential major SAL outbreak, during the next two weeks? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

If so could this system realistically buck those trends and survive to threaten mainland North America? We shall see I guess.
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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#12 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:36 pm

Continues mainly west while it gains strength.

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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#13 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:47 pm

Now moves WNW NNE of PR and continues to get stronger.

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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#14 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:55 pm

Run ends around 200 miles ESE of Cape Cod.

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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#15 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:59 pm

I assume by then it is weakening. How strong/deep a peak intensity does it reach on this model run?
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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#16 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:01 pm

Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:I assume by then it is weakening. How strong/deep a peak intensity does it reach on this model run?


Weakening at the end of run.Lowest pressure was 979 mbs.
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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#17 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:29 pm

ECM runs this westward till 240hrs and comes off Africa a little south.

CMC hits E.Caribbean with this so there must be some strong high pressure aloft to keep it going that far west.
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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#18 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:44 pm

A little surprised NHC didn't mentioned this area that emerges West Africa on day 5.
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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#19 Postby LarryWx » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:49 pm

cycloneye wrote:A little surprised NHC didn't mentioned this area that emerges West Africa on day 5.


Agreed as model consensus has this leaving Africa around 8/30.
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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 25L)

#20 Postby abajan » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:51 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Makes me wonder if the NHC will put it in the TWO at 8 pm?

Nope. But clear out of the blue, something else popped up! (That's late August for ya :lol: )
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