Tropical Wave about to emerge West Africa (Is Invest 92L)

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#101 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:39 pm

That ridge has been mighty strong for the past week. I see a W track to WNW track right when it arrives to the Greater Antilles.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#102 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:45 pm

192 hours.Stronger and West to Westnorthwest.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#103 Postby LarryWx » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:45 pm

I'm taking these last maps for Pouch 25L with an extra grain of salt due to the modeling of 99L, which is a major H in this run and hard to take seriously right now. That has got to have major downstream implications on steering features for 25L.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#104 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:52 pm

Westnorthwest at 216 hours.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#105 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:57 pm

Northwest at end of run.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#106 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:59 pm

Seems the ECMWF doesn't build back the ridge over the Eastern CONUS / W Atlantic due to 99L developing it punching through it. All long-range and subject to large error. 500MMB maps of GFS and ECMWF below for comparison:
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#107 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:59 pm

I'd raise the BS flag on this run.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#108 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:00 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#109 Postby LarryWx » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:00 pm

Major changes in track toward the end due imo to having a very strong and slower 99L, which is more than likely overdone, on this run being that it is such a drastic change.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#110 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:07 pm

There is your recurve lol another Ike situation yea right. That was a very rare event. Like I said at that latitude odds are you'll be scooped up.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#111 Postby LarryWx » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:15 pm

SFLcane wrote:There is your recurve lol another Ike situation yea right. That was a very rare event. Like I said at that latitude odds are you'll be scooped up.


Agreed based on over 150 years of tracks, especially IF it really does cross the CV longitude at 17 N+. However, that's still 4 days out and we should watch model trends to see if it ends up crossing the CV's instead of going by to the north. The 12Z trend was a little south. Also, there's more than the amount of question about the 12Z Euro run due to its sudden slowing and strengthening of 99L to a major vs its recent runs. That weakens E US ridging vs prior run/12Z GFS.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#112 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:59 pm

12Z UKMET is basically due west for the next week:

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#113 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:02 pm

gatorcane wrote:Seems the ECMWF doesn't build back the ridge over the Eastern CONUS / W Atlantic due to 99L developing it punching through it. All long-range and subject to large error. 500MMB maps of GFS and ECMWF below for comparison:



That wouldn't be a bad setup for weather watchers/storm enthusiasts as it would likely be a strong system but out to sea.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#114 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:16 pm

Wow there is a lot of rotation with this wave. I can see why the globals are jumping on this one. Link to Africa satellite loop below:

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=24
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#115 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:20 pm

Already looks more decent than 99L. :lol:
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#116 Postby MetroMike » Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:35 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Already looks more decent than 99L. :lol:

Thats not saying much.lol
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#117 Postby LarryWx » Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:45 pm

gatorcane wrote:Wow there is a lot of rotation with this wave. I can see why the globals are jumping on this one. Link to Africa satellite loop below:

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=24


Gator,
Nice loop. Would you please tell me the approx Lat/long of where you're saying is Pouch 25L? TIA
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#118 Postby RL3AO » Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:59 pm

SFLcane wrote:There is your recurve lol another Ike situation yea right. That was a very rare event. Like I said at that latitude odds are you'll be scooped up.


Except it really looks like a possible setup where a storm can go from Africa and impact some western land. This is the upper air set up it happens in.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#119 Postby USTropics » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:02 pm

LarryWx wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Wow there is a lot of rotation with this wave. I can see why the globals are jumping on this one. Link to Africa satellite loop below:

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=24


Gator,
Nice loop. Would you please tell me the approx Lat/long of where you're saying is Pouch 25L? TIA


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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#120 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:05 pm

LarryWx wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Wow there is a lot of rotation with this wave. I can see why the globals are jumping on this one. Link to Africa satellite loop below:

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=24


Gator,
Nice loop. Would you please tell me the approx Lat/long of where you're saying is Pouch 25L? TIA


Looks like around 11N, 1E, a little right of 0 degree longitude. This map confirms

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