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Children on diets (even though not needed!)

#1 Postby pojo » Wed Sep 24, 2003 1:36 pm

This is scary, I'm perfectly fine with average body height and weight, yet there are some people barely 100 lbs and think they are fat.

We had this conversation at home last night (ironically) because I was starving when I came home from work at 9pm last night (I can't eat after 8pm because I get sick) My brother was like...."are you aneroxic?" I'm like heck no! I just can't eat late night. Needless to say, I did not eat until breakfast this morning. My brother thought he was aneroxic and my mom stopped him in his tracks (neither of us are aneroxic)...we are of average weight and height. Because my step-dad had a stint put in about a month ago, all of us are eating healthier. We are all benefiting from his ordeal. We hardly have any junk food in the house....it has been changed to healthy foods.

Dying to Be Thin
(MSNBC 24 Sept 2003)

Eating disorders are striking children, especially girls, at younger and younger ages. Get the truth about this terrible trend.

A Worrisome Trend

About 40 percent of 9- and 10-year-old girls are trying to lose weight, according to a study in Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics. What frightens some researchers is that many of these girls aren't even overweight to begin with.

Concerns about body image are surfacing much earlier than in past generations, says Laurie Humphries, MD, director of the Eating Disorders Program at the University of Kentucky Chandler Medical Center in Lexington.

"By age 9," she says, "many young girls are starting to show preoccupation with shape and weight."

She blames this preoccupation on continual exposure to very thin women in the media. Just look at the actresses who star in TV shows popular with preteens. In between the storylines and ad copy is the message that if you want to be happy and successful, you need to be thin.

Children also take cues from health-conscious parents who may give them the message that junk food must be avoided at all costs or that all fat is bad. Even some 7-year-olds have obsessive attitudes toward food, similar to those of older girls with clinically diagnosed eating disorders, says Dr. Humphries. They religiously track calories and shun high-fat treats most grade-school students love.

Martha, who lives outside Washington, D.C., is concerned about her 9-year-old daughter, Emily. (Her last name is being withheld to protect her daughter's privacy.) During the past year, Emily has complained about her legs being "too big." At times, she rejects foods she knows are high in calories. Emily is muscular, but definitely not fat. Martha thinks Emily is being teased about her body shape by another girl at school. That girl is very thin.

"It certainly has been worrying me," says Martha. "It just seems odd to me that a young child would be trying to lose weight."

What will the long-term effects be for such children? Research is underway, but it's still not known if any of the girls are on a collision course with a full-blown eating disorder, such as anorexia nervosa or bulimia.

Who Gets Eating Disorders?

:rarrow: Adolescents. Anorexia nervosa, in which dieting is carried to a dangerous extreme, is rare before puberty. It typically strikes girls between 12 and 17. The most telltale symptom is dramatic weight loss. Anorexics complain of feeling fat, even as the pounds melt away. Eventually, menstruation ceases and there may be growth of fine body hair. They often are compulsive exercisers. Work, school, and social obligations are structured around workouts.

:rarrow: Young Adults. Bulimia usually appears in the late teens and early 20s. It's more difficult to recognize because bulimics often have a normal weight and may eat regular meals. They try to control their weight through a vicious cycle of binge eating, vomiting (often called purging), or overuse of laxatives. It's estimated that 3 percent of college-age women are bulimic.

:rarrow: Girls. Girls and women represent about 90 percent of patients at eating disorder clinics. No one can fully explain this gender imbalance, but it probably stems from cultural pressure for girls to be thin, says Dr. Humphries. Girls who hear negative comments or teasing remarks about their weight are at particularly high risk for developing an eating disorder.

:rarrow: Whites. Cultural differences may also account for differing attitudes and experiences among African-American and white girls. Although all girls at 10 have an equal desire to lose weight, a lower percentage of African-American girls suffer eating disorders as teenagers when compared with white girls. George Schreiber, of Westat, Inc., a research firm in Rockville, Maryland, thinks it's because they don't strive to be impossibly thin and are more tolerant of being heavier.

"Black girls always choose a heavier-designed body image than white girls," he says. "And at every level, white girls are more dissatisfied with their bodies than black girls."

:rarrow: Dieters. Going on a diet is often what starts an eating disorder, says Victor Fornari, MD, director of the Center for Eating Disorders at North Shore University Hospital in Manhasset, New York. "We often hear patients say, 'I began to diet to lose 5 or 10 pounds, and then the diet controlled me,'" he says.

At least one prominent researcher, though, cautions against assuming this preoccupation will lead to an epidemic of anorexia. "Lots of people diet, but not everybody gets an eating disorder," argues Walter H. Kaye, MD, director of the Eating Disorders Module at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.

:rarrow: Children of heavy parents. New research strongly suggests heredity may be involved in the development of some eating disorders. Identical twins are much more likely to share the problem than fraternal twins.

"There's pretty compelling evidence for genetics," says Dr. Kaye. "It's possible that eating disorders are an interaction of both genetics and culture."

What Can Parents Do?

Your daughter is bombarded with messages to be thin. Countering this cultural pressure is a daunting task, especially if your child is already unhappy with her weight. Here's how you can help:

:rarrow: Downplay appearance. Explain that people come in different shapes and sizes. Help her understand that people shouldn't be judged by how they look.

:rarrow: Cultivate her talents. Encourage her to do things she's good at, whether it's sports, music, writing, or any other activity. Succeeding in other pursuits will boost her self-esteem, regardless of what the scale says. "Emphasize what's really important -- personality, skills, and knowledge," says Dr. Fornari.

:rarrow: Help her ignore rude remarks. We all know kids can be cruel. If a peer teases your daughter about her weight, remind her the person doing the teasing is the one with the problem.

:rarrow: Check your attitude. Kids whose parents constantly diet and complain about weight will probably do the same.

:rarrow: Bite your tongue. Even if your child is overweight, avoid critical comments about how much she eats, warns Dr. Fornari. At age 9 and 10, dieting is not recommended.

:rarrow: Instead, encourage your daughter to exercise and make sure she has access to plenty of low-fat, high-fiber, protein-rich foods.

Battling Bulimia

Kristina Copeland believes her experience with bulimia was caused by a variety of circumstances. Now 29, she claims her genes made her prone to "addictive behavior." Her biological father is a recovering alcoholic. Having an alcoholic parent may raise a person's risk of becoming anorexic or bulimic, says Dr. Fornari.

As an adolescent, Kristina was acutely aware of her weight. "When I was 10 to 13, I was a little pudgy," she recalls. Then, in eighth grade, her family moved. Leaving her friends and entering a new school caused her self-esteem to plummet.

When she was 15, her best friend started purging after mealtimes. She showed Kristina how to vomit after gorging herself. "At school, we were known as the girls who threw up."

Kristina's problem intensified as she started modeling. She'd starve herself for days prior to a shoot, just to feel super-thin. Bingeing, purging, and fasting was a way of life for nine years. Recovery came about slowly, following a conscious decision to curb her dangerous behavior.

Today Kristina is an actress in New York City. She talks about her experience to high school students. "I'm very grateful I was able to stop," she says. "Food has become my fuel -- it's no longer an issue."

Dr. Fornari hears stories similar to Kristina's every day. He knows countless girls are falling into the same trap, partly because of current fashion whims. Many models are 10 to 20 percent below their ideal weight, he says. Full-figured women have started to appear in some ads, but those are targeted mostly at older women. The emaciated look remains the norm.

Photos of super-slim celebrities should come with a warning label, says Dr. Humphries, only half-jokingly. "It should read: 'These people are very unhealthy.' "
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#2 Postby Lindaloo » Wed Sep 24, 2003 1:49 pm

I would not believe it had I not experienced this one for myself. My 13 year old is a dancer and has been since she was 3. When she got to the age of 11 she started asking me if she was fat. I laughed at her telling her no way. She was 4'11 92 pounds. Well she grew to 5ft at age 12 and still 92 pounds. When I took her to the doctor right when she turned 13 she grew a quarter inch but lost 2 pounds. I found some extra money in her room recently only to find out it was her lunch money because she was not eating lunch because she thinks she is fat!! Come to find out she was putting her food at supper in a napkin so I would think she was eating it.

Of course I knew something was wrong. Took her back to the doctor. Under his care he has put her on a proper diet with some vitamins. She is also in the Big Brother, Big Sister Program and is in counseling. If I had not taken notice and stepped in, I was told she could have developed one of those eating disorders which are always fatal. Her self-esteem was in the toilet too because she was so obssessed thinking she was fat!!
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#3 Postby ColdFront77 » Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:30 pm

Then there are those like me who want to gain weight. I am 5 foot 11 inches tall, and stay between 100 and 105 pounds. I do eat, but get full quickly, so have to eat whenever I feel hungry, but the hours go by in the day I really can only eat so much a day. I apparently have a fast metabolism.

As I mentioned in that other thread on this issue (some of you may have missed it)... I had a blood drawn last Thursday and the results yesterday were very good, two things tested were slightly low, but no problem with the numbers.
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#4 Postby Deenac813 » Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:55 pm

My 11 year old niece is going through this now.. She is much taller than anyone in her class so she weighs more.. she thinks she is fat & is constantly asking me how much fat is in things.. We have been talking about it & she is getting better but it still scares me!
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#5 Postby JQ Public » Wed Sep 24, 2003 7:14 pm

There are some kids (very rare) that do need to go on diets but for the most part living an active life and eating appropriate foods should spare most kids the embarassment of dieting.
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#6 Postby pojo » Thu Sep 25, 2003 12:37 pm

I'm 5'9" and 150....no where near overweight status. I had someone at work ask me if I was losing weight...yes, but no....I am working out more that way I am physically ready for AF bootcamp (mentally is another story)...but I've been this weight for years. I did not have a eating disorder as a child, yes, I did worry about my weight, but most of the time, I was extremely skinny...did not have weight problems.
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#7 Postby Amanzi » Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:26 pm

As a child my mother spent sooo much money on doctors, specialists and every other professional under the sun... I too like Tom have an extremely fast metabolism. My poor mother had such a hard time. I was very very skinny as a child when I was 13 I weighd 55lbs. Doctors tried all kinds of new fandangled diets to make me get fatter. (I even was told to drink ensure just before bed time!) :roll: It was not easy for me at school (I went to an all girls school, as most of the high schools in South Africa are not mixed sex) I was called horrible names... told countless times I would blow down if the wind blew to hard, asked on a daily basis if I was\am anorexic... I know how over weight people feel because I got just the same kind of peer pressure only on the other side of the scale. Even my husband tells me now eat your tooo skinny (I was a whopping 94lbs before I fell pregnant).. then he is surprized by the amount of food I do actually eat.

I would love to know why people are sooo obsessed with the body image.. it never ceases to amaze me.. someone can have such sleeepless nights over there body type, yet ignore a serious character flaw. I think as parents we have a responsibility to train our children into thinking about character building and personality traits and trying to steer them away from the media images they see on a daily basis. Not to say we should not encourage a healthy diet and get kids to be active and not couch potatoes.

Well Done Linda you did the right thing... it goes to show how well you know your child.. many parents dont notice untill it is too late.
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#8 Postby Lindaloo » Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:44 pm

Bron.. I hate to hear about how kids tormented you like that!! It is disheartening to me. I remember a girl similar to your situation, except she was overweight. My friends would talk about her during P.E. (7th grade). I remember this girl would always look at the ground or immediately get on the defensive. I would go home every afternoon and tell my parents about it when they asked me how my day went. I would never participate in the tauntings. I did everything possible that year to befriend her. During the summer I called her up to see if she wanted to play softball. Thankfully she said yes and we ended up on the same team. lol. We became good friends and were all through high school too. I always told her I liked her the way she is.

My daughter is a very bright TEEN (ugh). The main thing is I learned at an early age that talking is a key to knowing your child, as my parents did with me. When the talking stops, the trouble starts.
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#9 Postby JetMaxx » Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:51 pm

My oldest sister (Becky) nearly died twice from aneroxia nervosa...at age 14 and again 16. She was 5'4 (now 5'5), and thought she was fat at 94 lbs....would stand in front of the mirror and say she was still too fat when in reality she looked like a skeleton (which totally horrified me).

Thankfully prayers, love, counseling, and common sense finally prevailed....but I lost a lot of sleep worrying about sis...and still have nightmares once in a while.
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#10 Postby Amanzi » Thu Sep 25, 2003 6:16 pm

Lindaloo wrote:Bron.. I hate to hear about how kids tormented you like that!! It is disheartening to me. I remember a girl similar to your situation, except she was overweight. My friends would talk about her during P.E. (7th grade). I remember this girl would always look at the ground or immediately get on the defensive. I would go home every afternoon and tell my parents about it when they asked me how my day went. I would never participate in the tauntings. I did everything possible that year to befriend her. During the summer I called her up to see if she wanted to play softball. Thankfully she said yes and we ended up on the same team. lol. We became good friends and were all through high school too. I always told her I liked her the way she is.

My daughter is a very bright TEEN (ugh). The main thing is I learned at an early age that talking is a key to knowing your child, as my parents did with me. When the talking stops, the trouble starts.


aaaggg PE.. dont even say the word to me... we used to have swimming in summer for PE.. I used to hide away or think of any excuse not to get into a bathing suite. It really is soo odd because I spent every afternoon in a leotard doing ballet or gymnastics. It was never the dancing crowd who got onto my case, it was the busty shapey girls who used to have a great time teasing me... they used to call me stick insect :roll:
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#11 Postby petal*pusher » Thu Sep 25, 2003 7:39 pm

My daughter was both anorexic and bulimic. :(

At a very young age (7) she was diagnosed with Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis. She was a beautiful little red-headed ballerina when this disease attacked her........a few months after a nasty fall broke her arm. In just a few short weeks, she was in a wheelchair......the arthritis seemed to attack every joint and muscle. With very agressive medicines and treatments, she was able to go back to school.......but was not able to be in any of the gym classes.

She never complained......it was very hard to see her little knees and ankles swell......often i'd climb into bed with her just to let my body warm that little aching back. Looking at her, one would see a pretty little girl......then by watching her uneven steps, and problems even gripping a pencil, they would realize she was in pain. We were extremely fortunate to have compassionate teachers who understood her challenges, but did not lower their expectations. Like both of her parents, she was (still is!) a perfectionist. Most who suffer from anorexia and bulimia are perfectionists........high achievers........and have something in their life that they CANNOT CONTROL. This is the key.........NOT EATING is something they can control. Vomiting is something they can control.

Several neighbors and a couple teachers tried to carefully mention to me how thin my daughter seemed to be getting when she was in the 9th grade. After finding blood on the wall next to the toilet, I confronted her........we both cried.......then decided to find out as much as we could about these disorders. How blind I was for about 3 years!! When she graduated she was 5'9" and weighed 103#!

She is doing EXCELLENT now!! She's 25, absolutely a beautiful person.....both inside and out......and has worked hard (still is) to overcome those feelings. All of her life she will have to make decisions about how she eats. She still is affected by the arthritis.....but is off all meds. She follows a vegan diet which has been very helpful with the arthritis (red meat is not good for arthritic people!)

A friend had a daughter that was 28. She was also anorexic. When she moved out of her mothers home, she left behind clothes that ranged in size from 2 to 16.......her self-image of herself was that poor.

I've had students that also are anorexic. Sometimes they will tell me.....sometimes it's just very obvious. The books and info that helped my daughter and I understand are very dog-earred from lending them out! There IS help out there! This is VERY dangerous if not addressed!!

(Didn't mean to write so much......just know how sad this can be........p :(
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#12 Postby ColdFront77 » Fri Sep 26, 2003 3:38 am

Amanzi wrote:I too like Tom have an extremely fast metabolism. My poor mother had such a hard time. I was very very skinny as a child when I was 13 I weighd 55lbs. Doctors tried all kinds of new fandangled diets to make me get fatter. (I even was told to drink ensure just before bed time!)

I generally have been drinking one Boost a day (not at bedtime, that would be early in the morning).

I used to drink Ensure, but Boost was less expensive for the last number of months. However, a couple days ago, my mother and I noticed that Ensure... now in the plastic containers is less expensive than Boost. So, at the moment I have both.
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