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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4501 Postby caneman » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:20 am

KWT wrote:
NDG wrote:The current status of TD 9 and forecasted UL winds because of the trough is as if we are tracking a storm in May/early June, not very like a late August set up all the sudden.


Yes it is quite similar, especially in the angle of recurve.

With that being said, whilst the NHC thinks that trough will stop strengthening, I've seen plenty of these types of NE moving cyclones get a power-up initially as it happens. Will need to be watched.


Agreed, I have seen storms strenghten once moving in direction wiyh the sheer. Further, if it's fairly strong already and so little time before impact there may not be much affect.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4502 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:20 am

Outflow on the east half is really nice.
The ULL north of Puerto Rico may already be grabbing hold of it.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4503 Postby toad strangler » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:22 am

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#4504 Postby xcool22 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:22 am

I think go be more west ,just don't see go so fast NE turn imo... :roll:

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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4505 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:27 am

It appears to me that the upper air environment is going to be fairly decent for strengthening, with the ULL to the north west in a good position to help vent the storm. Perhaps that's what the HWRF is seeing? The question may come down to mid level dry air.

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=25&lon=-85&info=vis&zoom=2&width=1000&height=800&quality=90&type=Animation&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=12&mapcolor=black
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4506 Postby JILL239 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:27 am

Are we seeing any evidence of it going any more South than it is already showing? Should Fort Myers and Naples be concerned :?:

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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4507 Postby JaxGator » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:28 am

GCANE wrote:Outflow on the east half is really nice.
The ULL north of Puerto Rico may already be grabbing hold of it.


To what effect? Enhancing the storm's outflow?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4508 Postby StormHunter72 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:30 am

xcool22 wrote:I think go be more west ,just don't see go so fast NE turn imo... :roll:

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Lucky for you in LA track is pretty good from NHC you don't need anymore rain.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4509 Postby Agua » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:31 am

xcool22 wrote:I think go be more west ,just don't see go so fast NE turn imo... :roll:

That's pretty good agreement and they've been consistent for a day now. It's within a couple of days of landfall and that's about the point they have it locked down pretty well. I think you can breathe a little easier now.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4510 Postby StormHunter72 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:31 am

JILL239 wrote:Are we seeing any evidence of it going any more South than it is already showing? Should Fort Myers and Naples be concerned :?:

I am so mesmerized by all of this enjoying all the models and the discussions. Learning a lot
probably sarasota north but anything is possible.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4511 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:34 am

JaxGator wrote:
GCANE wrote:Outflow on the east half is really nice.
The ULL north of Puerto Rico may already be grabbing hold of it.


To what effect? Enhancing the storm's outflow?


Yes
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4512 Postby PerfectStorm » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:35 am

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... olor=black

Is that an eye feature at 14:45 (last frame or two) peeping out where COC/LLC? :eek:
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4513 Postby NDG » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:37 am

Ntxw wrote:It's not like it has been going through ice waters most of it's life. It's all been warm from the leewards to bahamas, and SGOM now. Atmosphere dictates almost everything. Gaston managed a major in less warm waters (and less OHC) then this depression did with very different results.


Exactly right, northerly upper and mid level shear has kept it at bay since entering the Caribbean, yesterday was the closest I saw the low level vorticity to the mid level vorticity but northerly shear came in again and the mid level vorticity kept drifting to the SW.
Today it seems like the mid level vorticity is trying to gain latitude as maybe a sign that finally northerly shear is starting to led up.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4514 Postby davidiowx » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:38 am

PerfectStorm wrote:http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=25&lon=-85&info=vis&zoom=2&width=1000&height=800&quality=90&type=Animation&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=12&mapcolor=black

Is that an eye feature at 14:45 (last frame or two) peeping out where COC/LLC? :eek:


I don't see anything close to an eye in those frames.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4515 Postby caneman » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:40 am

No eye but see convection has built into n.e
quad. Just needs to fill in North and nw. May be a t.s already.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4516 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:42 am

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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4517 Postby JaxGator » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:44 am

caneman wrote:No eye but see convection has built into n.e
quad. Just needs to fill in North and nw. May be a t.s already.


On the latest frame of the "Rainbow Loop", you can see that starting to happen.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4518 Postby PerfectStorm » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:45 am

davidiowx wrote:
PerfectStorm wrote:http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=25&lon=-85&info=vis&zoom=2&width=1000&height=800&quality=90&type=Animation&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=12&mapcolor=black

Is that an eye feature at 14:45 (last frame or two) peeping out where COC/LLC? :eek:


I don't see anything close to an eye in those frames.


yeah just got the 15:15 and looks like was just a tstorm tower now slightly sheared now to ene.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4519 Postby otterlyspicey » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:50 am

(First real post outside of a "Welcome/New User" thread...yay! Lol)

This has been such a fun and frustrating low to watch from the start. I have frequented this board for years and decided to actually start posting. As far as the low goes itself, the shear has been such an annoyance this whole time. And you can see that even though its lessened to an extent, it's still present. I just want to be able to blow all of the shear away lol
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4520 Postby TimeZone » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:52 am

PerfectStorm wrote:http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=25&lon=-85&info=vis&zoom=2&width=1000&height=800&quality=90&type=Animation&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=12&mapcolor=black

Is that an eye feature at 14:45 (last frame or two) peeping out where COC/LLC? :eek:


You knew it was only a matter of time before we had this post. :lol:
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